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    What backup body do you have?

    I am totally missing my M9. It is close to two weeks it has been away for focus issues and no info on when it returns

    Obviously I am browsing around for a backup solution. A Gf 1 or EP 2 with Leica M adaptor ? a second hand M8 ? or X1 ? or something completely different ?

    I would have loved to have something good right now, but I also know that when the M9 is working the backup solution will collect dust.

    I am not sure what to do.... Do you have a backup solution?
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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I once had a second body for my M8 but used it so seldom that I sold it.
    I would rather have something as a backup which you also would use when you do have your M9 available (different thing if I were pr-then I would have a second body for sure).
    This could be either a m4/3 (which is however close in site to the M9) or maybe better a x1 which also works as a light and small alternative when you daont want to carry the M9.
    Something else would be a small DSLR which you could also use for those times when you want AF or Telereach.
    For example a D7000 or a Pentax K5.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    next option: get a used M6 for small money and shoot some film for some time. could be fun.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Sony Nex 5 with M lens adapter. Even though I have two M9s, I still have this little gem which does stuff the M9 can't do.

    Lots of fun , APSC sized sensor, Up to ISO 12,800 with ISO 5000 being pretty darned good ... very nice ISO400 B&Ws, flip-up screen, and in-camera stitched Panoramas (no post stitching required). Relatively inexpensive.

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    Dan,
    My back up body is an M6. Occassionally when I travel to places and there is no power for a few days, the M6 still works. Plus I enjoy shooting film. Its just a different feel.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    My theory is not to have a back-up, but have two that complement each other, one best for tripod work and one best for hand-held.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Another vote for a M6........ I keep looking at all the people buying turntables for the hot new item, VINYL records!!!

    Who knows when film will be the hot new item

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post
    I am totally missing my M9. It is close to two weeks it has been away for focus issues and no info on when it returns

    Obviously I am browsing around for a backup solution. A Gf 1 or EP 2 with Leica M adaptor ? a second hand M8 ? or X1 ? or something completely different ?

    I would have loved to have something good right now, but I also know that when the M9 is working the backup solution will collect dust.

    I am not sure what to do.... Do you have a backup solution?
    So far, I´ve been lucky enough to have my M9 perform flawlwessly (less luck with the new 35/2, but that´s sorted out, finally). Nevertheless, the thought of a possible backup has crossed my mind more than once, and FWIW, these are my reactions.

    While I own a Panasonic G1 with adapters, the experience is just too far from the ´M feeling´ to be a real alternative. With practice, focussing an M is almost instantaneous, but the sequence of button-pressing and then using the EVF is VERY slow and fiddly, although very exact. For me, that´s for closeups on a tripod only.

    I do have a nice M2 for film, and I used it while waiting for the M9, but the hassle of scanning was just too much.

    The only realistic alternative for me would be my lovely Digilux 2; that´s what I would grab the instant I needed a backup for the M9. I do own the D-Lux4 too, but too fiddly to get the ´Leica feeling´.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I use an M8 (bought used) as backup, which I frankly only carry when on a long distance trip.

    I thought I could go with an X1 but found its autofocus limiting, and on-screen composition is not for me.

    I have never been satisified with a small sensor camera. Have owned several Canons including G10, and still have a DLux3. Just not my cup of tea, and every time a new one comes along and I bite, I end up regretting it.
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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    How long will you be without the M9? If only a couple of weeks I'd just suck it up. If MONTHS I'd probably buy a used M9 then sell it when I got the other one back. For backup in case of catastrophic loss while traveling I'm throwing my M6 in the luggage. My M9 is insured against theft, loss, and accidents, so if that happens while I'm traveling I'll get another one (overnight shipping is such a modern marvel) then deal with the insurance end when I get home. So at most I'd only be without it a few days and be out cost of shipping.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I had two M8's for a while, then one M9, and now an M9 and an upgraded M8. I only needed a backup once when the electronics in my first M8 went wonky. The M8 seems to complement the M9 because of the "crop factor" and it's kind of the same, but different. Film's a great option (I have an M7), but doesn't seem like a "backup".

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    If I had a backup body, I'd want it to be about 4" taller, 25# lighter and 20 years younger.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I'll eventually (probably) get another M9 - tho' by then maybe the M10 will come along and the M9 can be the back-up. Meantime my X1 does very well and it's so light I don't even know it's in the bag!
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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post
    I am not sure what to do.... Do you have a backup solution?
    I have a second identical body. Funny thing is the backup camera needed service before the original one ... at least if the original camera is ever out of action I know the backup is functioning at 100%.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    A backup for a digital M would always be a digital M. I decided to stop shooting film some weeks ago. I will keep my analog M's (M6, M7 and MP) just for nostalgic reasons. But the whole workflow from analog via scan to digital became simply too troublesome for me - I am getting old an lazy

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I use a GF1 as a backup, as well as for the really wide (7-14mm) or long shots. It's not replacement, but my M9 is currently getting it's sensor/logic board replaced and the GF1 does the job. Lately I've only been shooting family shots with lots of kids running around, so the GF1 is probably a better choice right now anyway.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Marelli View Post
    Dan,
    My back up body is an M6. Occassionally when I travel to places and there is no power for a few days, the M6 still works. Plus I enjoy shooting film. Its just a different feel.

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    +1. My "back-up" is an M2. Or is the M8 a backup for the M2?

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Thanks for so many suggestions Appreciated!

    I will be on a road trip for three days starting tomorrow and I will be thinking long and hard on what I will do. I sort of understand everyones standpoint here so it will be a tough call.....
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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    HI Dan
    My backup is an M9 . . . . but, truth to tell, it's hardly a 'back up' as it's used at the same time, with a different lens on it. M shooting with two bodies is a real treat.

    all the best

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Like Jono, I use another M9. I had 2 M8s & planned to use one as a backup to M9, but I found the M8 awkward to use in this pairing because the focal lengths don't 'overlap' very well: if you use the M8 for wides, the apertures are too slow, & if you use it for longer lenses, you might as well just crop the M9 files. Also I often didn't remember to put on / take off the right filter. If possible just spend the $ & be happier.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    If I had a backup body, I'd want it to be about 4" taller, 25# lighter and 20 years younger.
    Make mine 30 years younger and order two

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    Currently I have an X1, but I am seriously thinking of getting a second M9 maybe a grey one this time...and since I am leaving for London tonight..well we will see!!

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    I decided to keep my M8 when I got my M9. However I now mainly use it on a Visoflex rather than as a back up. I am going to South Africa and Namibia after Christmas and I am taking both M8 (plus Viso and 280 Telyt) and M9 plus my real back up/camera, when I don't want to carry anything valuable, a Ricoh GX200. I also have had an M4 since 1967 but I am afraid that only gets used for B&W nowadays.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I simply have too many cameras, so there is no shortage of backup cameras - M9-M8u-M8-DMR/R8-Digilux3-Digilux2 and a number of film Leicas <runs and hides in cupboard...>
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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Leica CL maybe?

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I would have thought that if your main camera was a 24 Mpx CaNikon, you back-up would be another one, or perhaps something to complement it like a 22Mpx MFD.

    You can get spare bodies (at the time of purchase) for HD4-60's, but that does not help if the DigiBack fails... but you can pick up a 39Mpx?

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    It is really difficult with a backup. It is the M9 I want to work with but a second M9 is out of the question. And when my M9 is up and running the other one will be collecting dust. Still no info when I am having it back, it is now 16 days since it was sent away.
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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post
    It is really difficult with a backup. It is the M9 I want to work with but a second M9 is out of the question. And when my M9 is up and running the other one will be collecting dust. Still no info when I am having it back, it is now 16 days since it was sent away.
    For portraiture I like to use two cameras at a time... I look confused, imply a technical problem by removing the lens from one camera, and then fire the other camera remotely... works well for the camera-shy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    If I had a backup body, I'd want it to be about 4" taller, 25# lighter and 20 years younger.
    Kurt: Amen!

    My backup body is a G1, with the 20/1.7 and kit zoom. I used it on a trip to BC, Canada when my shoulder was really bothering me and having a light camera was the only thing that mattered. It isn't quite Leica image quality, but it does do nicely in most cases. And my 90/3.5 VC lens makes a great telephoto. Using manual lenses on it is often more of a hassle than it's worth. Exceptions: The 90-as-180mm-telephoto, a 50/3.5 OM macro, and a 50/1.4 in the theater. Here, the manual focusing works out well.

    I have my old M4-P and M6 film bodies, and I took one with me to Israel recently "just in case," but I confess I have only shot one roll of film since my M8 arrived 3 years ago.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I usually carry an M8 with a 28/2, and also a couple of filters for the lenses I'm likely to use with the M8 in case something happens to the M9.

    When travelling the M9 is used with 3 or 4 lenses and I take most of my pictures with it, but the M8 with 28 still gets a fair bit of use. It's nice because I know exactly what lens/angle of view I'll have when I pick up the M8, and the image quality is largely the same.

    If I'm on a trip and likely to want longer telephoto or macro capability, I'll take a G series camera and appropriate lens, and also throw in the 20 and the kit zoom for backup purposes. That's what will happen in January, when we go to Central America for a short trip. M9 with WATE, 35/1.4, 75/2 and GH2 with 20, 14-45 and 100-300 and close up achromats. All in a Domke 803.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    I have to agree with Mark on the NEX5. I have both the NEX5 and M6 as backups to my M9. This week I went on a trip downtown on the train. I took the NEX and M6 and left the M9 at home. The NEX had a Zeiss Biogon ZM 25 f/2.8 on it. It proved to be more useful all around. The M6 was loaded with slide film and I'm sure that I will like those photos best, but the NEX worked inside a dark church and a dark restaurant and outside as well. The NEX would be a lot more useful if it had a viewfinder, but it is a little gem that tucks into the bag and can be most useful.

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    My M9 is also with Leica for repairs for past 2 weeks. As a hobby and I cannot justify another M9 as backup, so I'm shooting with a M6. I'm considering getting a NEX as a small and affordable backup for the M9 for situations where I don't want (or can't) to shoot film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I have to agree with Mark on the NEX5. I have both the NEX5 and M6 as backups to my M9. This week I went on a trip downtown on the train. I took the NEX and M6 and left the M9 at home. The NEX had a Zeiss Biogon ZM 25 f/2.8 on it. It proved to be more useful all around. The M6 was loaded with slide film and I'm sure that I will like those photos best, but the NEX worked inside a dark church and a dark restaurant and outside as well. The NEX would be a lot more useful if it had a viewfinder, but it is a little gem that tucks into the bag and can be most useful.
    I have a NEX too. WRT viewfinder, Sean Reid just posted a review of after market Nex accessories, this being one of them:
    http://www.jtec-online.com/coldshoe.html

    I shaped my own cold shoe on top of the flash unit and it works well. I also use it for low light situations, with the Leica M lenses so the optical viewfinders are very useful for this ( taking the 1.5x into account ).

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    Re: What backup body do you have?

    my wife's small lumix digital. i know: not a good approach to backing up my M8

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