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    Finally Joined the Club!

    While I know everyone urged me not to rush into it, I went ahead and bought a medium format kit for an important shoot I had. And I have to say I'm VERY glad I did. I'm in love with the quality of this thing and its an older back. I can't wait to upgrade to a newer P30+ or possibly a better leaf back than the one I currently have. Below is a picture from my second shoot that I edited tonight. I wish I could attach pics of the first shoot as they came out great! But I can't do to the fact I need to wait until they are available to the public first.



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    Congratulations!

    Nice shot and beautiful model!

    Yes, MF is something else and i am happy i did, but the problem is if i want to upgrade always which means i have to have a very big account or become a millionaire.
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    Re: Finally Joined the Club!

    Quote Originally Posted by shortpballer View Post
    While I know everyone urged me not to rush into it, I went ahead and bought a medium format kit for an important shoot I had. And I have to say I'm VERY glad I did. I'm in love with the quality of this thing and its an older back. I can't wait to upgrade to a newer P30+ or possibly a better leaf back than the one I currently have. Below is a picture from my second shoot that I edited tonight. I wish I could attach pics of the first shoot as they came out great! But I can't do to the fact I need to wait until they are available to the public first.





    Glad to see you got it working. And are you shooting into Capture One? I think you will find that this is the resolution and tonal range that all these people lurking around on this forum expect from their MF system. I also think as you consider the upgrades down the road, look at what you shoot. I looked at your work the first day we discussed MF options for you. I felt like P30/P30+ or even better P40/P40+ was the perfect camera for you because of two very important considerations. Speed and smaller pixel size which will help reduce morie patters like on the models left knee. That type of morie may have had some color aliasing associated with it that Capture One should take out. It is very difficult to do anything except retouch that type of texture pattern morie. If you shot rings or medical products that are hard line items, you do not see these artifacts. When you shoot people, they are usually wearing clothes, may not always, that can show textures so strong that they create a morie pattern. So to reduce the amount of this occurring, using a smaller pixel size camera will help tremendously.

    I have seen these MF camera evolve over the last 19 years since I purchased my first Leaf DCB camera as a dealer. Every time we had a major upgrade in hardware and the pixel size changed, upgrading not only meant you could shoot faster and with more detail, but there was less retouching and dealing with the artifacts produced by some of the large pixel size cameras. Many times we ran into issues with catalog photography, silk ties to be exact where the P25 with 9 microns pixels created a huge morie issue that in the end would require more time in retouch department that got billed to client. Put a P45/P45+ in place, and 99% of it got eliminated through the hardware change. We saw the same thing take place with the P40/P65+ as they were introduced with even smaller pixels.

    Your Aptus 17 has I think a 7.2 micron size.

    The new backs like P30/P30+ have 6.7 micron size.

    And P65+ offers 6 microns.

    The smaller you go, the more you will see morie reduced or eliminated.

    And we are seeing great results from the Leaf Aptus II 8 which is a 40 MP back with 6 micron size pixels. So that may be a great way to upgrade to. Both brands currently are offering very attractive upgrade paths. And very fast shooting.

    So good luck and keep us informed of your progress.



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    Re: Finally Joined the Club!

    Yes agree Chris as I tested this at one point with the P45+, P30+ and P40+ the moire and artifacts dropped when I got to the P40+ 6 micron. Also I owned the P30+ and now the P40+ and it is a faster back and more features and such it was well worth the upgrade and more importantly in the end I liked the Dalsa sensor much better in the P40+ over the Kodak P30+. I feel the color tonal range is smoother and more subtle. For fashion I urge anyone to move up to the P40+ or the Leaf equivalent ( same sensor). Not only that I can shoot sensor plus which I use a lot( Phase Only). Besides all that the upgrade numbers are really good right now. Honestly I really have nothing to bitch about with the P40+ outside the LCD. I'm actually thrilled with the P40+ /DF combo.

    BTW that maybe the worst moire producing fabric right there so don't expect that with other fabric as bad. I get Moire but it's almost like I have to work at it to get it. I agree use C1 no doubt about it with Phase files. I want to say leaf files as well but I have not tested that
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    I tried to use C1 and the leaf program. But both of them didn't allow me to edit my pictures... So I just imported them into aperture for the time being. It allows the import into C1 and leaf capture but it doesn't allow any RAW editing, all the sliders remain grey and un-moveable!

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    Re: Finally Joined the Club!

    Eric I sent you an email explaining how to get C1 and LC to open your files

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