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    Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    When you get a new kit you really need to do a lot of testing to learn it well. These are pretty good, I think, focus was off a tad. Clearly I need to do more testing... lots of testing

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Oh my ... certainly we need to follow along with your testing process, David. You certainly have an eye for ... gear.

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    David,

    Since I just got a new MF camera, maybe I should fly down and we can test them out together.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Ray,
    You are more than welcome, come down anytime. Testing can be a difficult and time consuming process but someone has to do it. Nailed the focus on this one... scary sharp as Guy would say.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    David,
    Love the last shot when it is in focused.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Pham Minh Son View Post
    David,
    Love the last shot when it is in focused.

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    David

    The Aptus files look really great. Seems that both Phase and Aptus are very capable backs. I am envious.

    Woody

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    David

    The Aptus files look really great. Seems that both Phase and Aptus are very capable backs. I am envious.

    Woody
    These are Sinar files

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    David

    The Aptus files look really great. Seems that both Phase and Aptus are very capable backs. I am envious.

    Woody

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    Nice shots, David!

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Woody,
    Nice of you to remember my Aptus, I had many good images from that back. The good news is that I'm starting to get some really good stuff with the Sinar back too. Kidding aside, there is a learning curve. This image, for example, which was shot by my friend Andre, would not have been possible without a WLF. Hand held about 3" over the water (believe me, my heart was in my throat). I think the difference in perspective makes this a much better shot than my own. Hand holding and shooting with WLF takes some practice but I'm starting to appreciate the importance of this as an option. Learning the glass takes a bit of time too. If I'm going to shoot wide open I'll use the 110 f/2... if not, the 80 f/2.8 is sharp as a tack. Meantime it's great fun.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    You mean to tell me you would not get in the water with her, i mean your camera . You chicken sh.... Anyday of the week i would lay down in the water, oh and with the camera too.
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    Rough work Dave. I guess someone has to do it.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Doug, we don't have any mountains to shoot in Florida... this is the best I can do The funny part, Guy, is that Andre just got himself a new Gitzo tripod that he didn't want to put in the water. I figure it's carbon fiber and that's what it's made for. I will tell say that I had a death grip on the back while we were in the water

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    Don't blame you
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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    Woody,
    This image, for example, which was shot by my friend Andre, would not have been possible without a WLF. Hand held about 3" over the water (believe me, my heart was in my throat). .
    Is the Hy6 the only current system with a WLF?

    Is the Hy6 also the only current 6x6 camera?

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Hassy CWD/II or V series + Phase P20 or P21 (can't recall which) are square format with WLF as standard (but removable). Non-current Contax 645 can fit WLF.

    David - I like your testing methodology. Think we should all contribute to a shortened CF tripod so as to ensure the project continues....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Non-current Contax 645 can fit WLF.
    But it can only be usable in landscape mode. Turning the camera on its side makes the WLF unusable.

    Yes, the Hy6 is the only current system which offers a WLF in both landscape and portrait modes. You just rotate the back, not the camera.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Hassy CWD/II or V series + Phase P20 or P21 (can't recall which) are square format with WLF as standard (but removable). Non-current Contax 645 can fit WLF.

    David - I like your testing methodology. Think we should all contribute to a shortened CF tripod so as to ensure the project continues....
    The P20 is square, not the P21.

    Also, don't forget the Hasselblad CFVII and 503CWD, both of which can use the waist level finder.

    H1/H2 and H3D series Hasselblads also have a waist level finder option.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    These kinds of photos would get me in trouble with the Mrs. She's a bit provincial when it comes to me photographing scantily clad nubile young women. I'll stick to subjects that don't need model releases.

    Still, lovely photos. Nice freckles. I am happy to see that currently trends in modeling no longer require utterly flawless skin from head to toe.
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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    These are Sinar files
    I knew that!!!!!!!!!! LOL

    My head is swimming from the constant study of these backs to see what is best for me. I just plunged for the Phase P45+

    Talk about a slippery slope!

    But anyway David K these are beautifully captured images no matter the name of the back and how much you had to spend to get it. Just great stuff

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    Congrats Woody and nice choice going to the 39 mpx . Man you guys are killing me everyone is buying the big guns. I may need to upgrade.

    No very happy with my 22.
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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    But it can only be usable in landscape mode. Turning the camera on its side makes the WLF unusable.

    Yes, the Hy6 is the only current system which offers a WLF in both landscape and portrait modes. You just rotate the back, not the camera.
    The only other camera I know that can do this is the Mamiya RB 67 ProII which uses a rotatable adapter which can rotate 90 degrees with the MFDB mounted. I had the chance to try this with the Phase P25 back and it is an impressive package. Of course no metering and no AF! But there are very impressive optics for this body and with appropriate back could be a great kit for the landscape shooter.

    Woody

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    In addition to the RZ there is the Fuji GX 680 that can do it too. It has the advantage of built-in tilt and shift on the lens standard... But it's a tank compared to the RZ which is a tank compared to the Rollei or Hassy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    But there are very impressive optics for this body and with appropriate back could be a great kit for the landscape shooter.
    I think this system makes sense for someone with a large exisiting investment in lenses, but the camera is a lot larger and heavier than it needs to be (a problem for landscape shooters). The viewfinder area is only half active. The lenses are a lot slower then the competing systems. The crop factor of digital backs means that the wides for this system are not very wide at all (another problem for landscape shooters), and that is on top of the points you mention such as lack of metering, lack of AF (or even focus confirmation) as well as a lack of the more modern features found on the latest MF SLRs.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Woody... another one bites the dust The revolving adapter for the Hy6 is a great feature. Although the Mamiya RZ (which I'm very fond of) also has it, as Graham pointed out it's quite a bit of kit to lug around. Better in the studio, IMHO. Anyway, congratulations to you on your new acquisition. Hope you get lots of great shots with it.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    These kinds of photos would get me in trouble with the Mrs. She's a bit provincial when it comes to me photographing scantily clad nubile young women. I'll stick to subjects that don't need model releases.
    I can understand that... I'm fortunate my wife indulges me in this regard. No model release for this shot... I consider it a landscape

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    I'm gonna classify that shot as NSFWFO (Not Safe For Wife Finding Out).
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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    In addition to the RZ there is the Fuji GX 680 that can do it too. It has the advantage of built-in tilt and shift on the lens standard... But it's a tank compared to the RZ which is a tank compared to the Rollei or Hassy.

    PS: Welcome to the fray Woody!
    Yes Welcome Woody!

    With the Fuji GX680 it is a nice system for product photography, but for anything else like landscapes and stuff it is a very bulky system. Surprisingly I ran the 50mm lens through our Focal Length Calculator (http://www.captureintegration.com/wp...march6_081.xls)
    and was surprised that it is equivalent to a 23mm on a 35mm system. It is because the image area of the film is 5.6mmx7.6mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by lance_schad View Post
    It is because the image area of the film is 5.6mmx7.6mm
    Is it possible you mean 5.6cm x 7.6cm?

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Lance, I must be getting old... those product shots look sexier than my models.

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    Re: Hy 6 e75LV still testing

    Has anybody tried the Mamiya right angle adapter as a pseudo WLF?
    -bob

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    David, I don't know much about landscapes, but I know what I like.

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    I don't think so, Graham, rather 56mm x 76mm.




    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    Is it possible you mean 5.6cm x 7.6cm?

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    If the GX680 is bulky for landscapes what is a 4x5 or 8x10 ? I do have to say though that my Contax 645/Aptus kit with 4 lenses weighs and occupies about the same space as my Arca Swiss Field 4x5 and 3 lenses though. Most 4x5 lenses are pretty small compared to medium format ones.
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