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Shadows of the 24 megapixel D3x was pretty good too... but noone really cared about that camera due to the high price. Instead it was the Canon 5Dmk2 which was the previous "state of the art" of DSLR, and its dynamic range at base ISO is far from impressive. So in that sense the jump to 36 megapixels with almost no read noise in the pixels is an enormous improvement.24-36 Mp discussion here leaves out the fact that the new 36mp sensor also has the best shadows you can get and the broadest overall dynamic range. There is much more here than a jump of 12 MP.
Peter definitely knows how to use C1, so I would recommend he simply stick with that for both systems -- no sense adding un-necessary variables.
They are un-shifted. But also keep in mind that they are wide open, so you can expect them to be significantly better stopped down.I would assume these posted corner performances are from "unshifted lenses"? If so, I'd be interested in seeing 5 degree and full shift comparions with the Nikon and newer Canon.
Dave (D&A)
Okay, we are not that far apart then... I believe the MFDB model is completely broken and the beast is destined for extinction.
I still think and probaly always will feel MF is the ultimate in IQ until somebody stomps on it by a wide margin. Agreed the D800 is so darn close and also agree the adjustment bureau needs to take place in the MF market. Nikon just looked up the dear girls skirt and seen what's there and found out the secret. Oh I'm going to get in trouble for that one. ROTFLMAOOkay, we are not that far apart then
I would hope that MF manufacturers realize their situation is tenuous at best now, and act before they do become extinct. But this infers there is such significant margins in MF that the prices could be cut by 50% immediately and still allow the companies a "reasonable" profit --- and I suspect that is not the case.
Guy, how about a sticky in the Nikon forum for lens recommendations. With all the current Nikon lenses, classic nikkors, Zeiss, and Sigma, there are probably over 200 lenses to choose from......you just simply need great glass in front of these sensors and honestly these Nikons prepare yourself to buy the best ...D800/E
Guy - when you refer to speed here, do you mean optical speed, or speed of use/AF?
I would have thought the Mamiya 300/2.8 would give a similar look to the Nikon. It and the Nikon 200/2 have very similar physical aperture sizes and fields of view on their respective sensors.
When you get right down to it it comes down to the Dalsa sensor and how C1 handles the Phase files which in my opinion makes the Phase backs what they are. It's the tonal range and color that makes the obvious difference between them. Now that can be worked on also from Nikon and the raw converters . The other trick we can do us profile our bodies as well . So we have some options to work on and that is what I want to do is concentrate on those improvements in my files. Sure there is resolution as well but that is less a concern for me.Thanks Guy, but she's not always a doll . Sorry, I did not mean this to be guessing game...yes, the top is D800E, bottom IQ180. Looking at them side by side, I think it's quite obvious, nonetheless, the D800 is pretty darn close. I guess this is the whole point of this discussion.
The Dalsa sensor has a smoothness to the files, even with all that resolution. I see this especially in the greys/blues of skies in landscapes, and gives BW images a look I just love.
Contrast -10, Saturation -10, Clarity +12Actually just for grins try knocking contrast and saturation down a touch and maybe even a touch of clarity. Like to see that change