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Advice on Hasselblad X1D
- Thread starter rmatthews
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Two points to note. First, the Auto White Balance has been very significantly improved in the latest firmware that was released last week. Second, the EVF blackout is MUCH longer if the camera is set to record both Raw files and JPEGs. The EVF blackout is much shorter if the camera is set to Raw only. Not an issue for me, as I never shot JPEGs anyway. My understanding is that the EVF blackout is tied to the readout with the Sony sensor used in the X1D. The GFX will presumably have the same issue when it is records raw files, but we don't know yet because the GFX bodies that Fuji has made available for demos have locked out the ability to shoot raw files.
Isn't it amazing that a shop would be trying to sell a $9,000 camera and would not have updated the firmware on their demo model? I saw the same happen at a dealer in Massachusetts. Not only did they have the old firmware in the camera, they had not even bothered to charge the battery. To be fair, they have lots of cameras that they sell and may not be aware of every firmware update. Hasselblad knows who has the demo X1Ds and should email them to make sure they do the updates.
stephengilbert
Active member
Gotta love this place. We tout Hasselblad on Fuji threads and trash Fuji on Hassy threads.
Way to stay focused.
Way to stay focused.
Not sure where Fuji is being trashed? If I did somewhere, I didn't mean to - I love Fuji!
So, help me. Where was Fuji "trashed"?
JoshMerwin
Member
I think he misunderstood that sentence about the lack of firmware being updated in the separate paragraph was in relation to the dealer and the X1D, NOT the Fuji's forward only shooting jpgs.
Anyway, if you liked the Q and want something along the same lines with more flexibility in terms of interchangeable lenses and bump in quality, etc. I think you will be very happy with the X1D. I have both and they really do make a great pair, especially for traveling. (I wish Leica would make a screw on telephoto adapter to make the 28 a 50mm.) Hasselblad is also clearly committed to updating the cameras functionality via firmware and the most recent was the first of More to come.
Anyway, if you liked the Q and want something along the same lines with more flexibility in terms of interchangeable lenses and bump in quality, etc. I think you will be very happy with the X1D. I have both and they really do make a great pair, especially for traveling. (I wish Leica would make a screw on telephoto adapter to make the 28 a 50mm.) Hasselblad is also clearly committed to updating the cameras functionality via firmware and the most recent was the first of More to come.
Agreed. The X1D is pretty effortless to pick up, pack, and have with you, whether it's vacation or less deliberate excursions. I have shelves full of cameras that are technically better than the X1D at one thing or the other. The telling thing for me is which I reach for most often. I'm on a trip right now and the two cameras I carried are a Leica M with a 50, and the X1D with the 45 and 90. That gives me more options than I ever thought I would be able to have in a small bag of gear.
Thanks all
I have gone ahead and ordered the X1D with the 45mm. It seems to have all the features I need and all the hardware complaints I've read about are for things I wouldn't use. I actually see the lack of features as a positive as there is less for me to confused by.
I'm trading my Leica M for it and have rationalised it by thinking that even if I decide down the line that it isn't the right camera for me, the trade in value will probably still get me a better M than I had and a decent lens, whereas if I'd stayed with the 240 or upgraded to the M10 I'd always be looking at forums like this wondering if I should have made the move.
Looking forward to getting my hands on it soon..
I have gone ahead and ordered the X1D with the 45mm. It seems to have all the features I need and all the hardware complaints I've read about are for things I wouldn't use. I actually see the lack of features as a positive as there is less for me to confused by.
I'm trading my Leica M for it and have rationalised it by thinking that even if I decide down the line that it isn't the right camera for me, the trade in value will probably still get me a better M than I had and a decent lens, whereas if I'd stayed with the 240 or upgraded to the M10 I'd always be looking at forums like this wondering if I should have made the move.
Looking forward to getting my hands on it soon..
JoshMerwin
Member
Congrats!!!
You will enjoy it, hopefully they will are shipping in larger quantities, it seems like more and more people are getting their cameras.
You will enjoy it, hopefully they will are shipping in larger quantities, it seems like more and more people are getting their cameras.
Erik Lundqvist
Member
Godfrey
Well-known member
That seems sound thinking. Good luck with it!
When I look at what the X1D offers, at this time it would be much more a replacement for my M than for my SL or 500CM. If they offer the 22-ish mm lens that would net me the "digital SWC" field of view that I want so much, I could easily see trading off the M system for the X1D to complement the SL system.
The only rub is that the X1D will never be as small, light, quick, and handy as the M ... it's simply a bigger camera with bigger lenses and a bigger format. Nothing wrong with that ... there's still justification for both.
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When I look at what the X1D offers, at this time it would be much more a replacement for my M than for my SL or 500CM. If they offer the 22-ish mm lens that would net me the "digital SWC" field of view that I want so much, I could easily see trading off the M system for the X1D to complement the SL system.
The only rub is that the X1D will never be as small, light, quick, and handy as the M ... it's simply a bigger camera with bigger lenses and a bigger format. Nothing wrong with that ... there's still justification for both.
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I think you'd be best served by switching to a Leica SL and using your current Leica lenses on it, or selling everything and just getting a Sony system. The X1D is just a bigger, heavier system and honestly it's overkill for travel snaps and family photos.
As for shallow depth of field, you'll get a shallower DOF at any given aperture with a MF camera than you would a 35mm camera so long as your distance to subject and field of view match. The X1D is a cropped sensor though, so shooting the X1D with the 90mm lens wide open at f/3.2 you'd still get a shallower DOF with a Leica 75mm Summicron at f/2 (the closest field of view match).
As for shallow depth of field, you'll get a shallower DOF at any given aperture with a MF camera than you would a 35mm camera so long as your distance to subject and field of view match. The X1D is a cropped sensor though, so shooting the X1D with the 90mm lens wide open at f/3.2 you'd still get a shallower DOF with a Leica 75mm Summicron at f/2 (the closest field of view match).
Thanks.
I did think about the SL with M lenses but I don't find it overly comfortable and do want to try AF and the SL lenses are just much too big and heavy for me.
Sony make great cameras but are really the opposite of what I'm look for in terms of bells and whistles. I'm going to go with the X1D and if in 6 months or a year I decide it isn't working for me I will probably go back to an M. I'm hoping for more than travel snaps btw!
So...I just heard from my dealer that he has one coming in on Tuesday and will put it aside for me. :thumbup:
In an interesting twist I just popped in to a large department store in London where, because they don't really know what they're doing, they have the X1D and lenses on sale at about 10% less than they should do. It's a bit of a dilemma because the dealer I'm using has a whole bunch of my equipment that I am returning/part exchanging and I can't see an easy way logistically of backing out without seriously annoying them. Normally it would be a simple decision to stick with the dealer I use but on this occasion 10% is a lot of money....
In any case I think I'm going to have stick with him so although it hurts to pay that much more at least I can take some comfort from supporting my local dealer.
Anyway, exciting that I will likely have it in hand next week
In an interesting twist I just popped in to a large department store in London where, because they don't really know what they're doing, they have the X1D and lenses on sale at about 10% less than they should do. It's a bit of a dilemma because the dealer I'm using has a whole bunch of my equipment that I am returning/part exchanging and I can't see an easy way logistically of backing out without seriously annoying them. Normally it would be a simple decision to stick with the dealer I use but on this occasion 10% is a lot of money....
In any case I think I'm going to have stick with him so although it hurts to pay that much more at least I can take some comfort from supporting my local dealer.
Anyway, exciting that I will likely have it in hand next week
Godfrey
Well-known member
I'm excited for you!So...I just heard from my dealer that he has one coming in on Tuesday and will put it aside for me. :thumbup:
In an interesting twist I just popped in to a large department store in London where, because they don't really know what they're doing, they have the X1D and lenses on sale at about 10% less than they should do. It's a bit of a dilemma because the dealer I'm using has a whole bunch of my equipment that I am returning/part exchanging and I can't see an easy way logistically of backing out without seriously annoying them. Normally it would be a simple decision to stick with the dealer I use but on this occasion 10% is a lot of money....
In any case I think I'm going to have stick with him so although it hurts to pay that much more at least I can take some comfort from supporting my local dealer.
Anyway, exciting that I will likely have it in hand next week
Sticking with the dealer who is taking care of you is the right thing to do, IMO, despite that it's going to cost you a bit of money. Too many times in recent years dealers who give personal service and take care of customers have been stiffed by people who found another source that gave them a lower price with no relationship, no service ... and many of those local dealers have gone out of business as a result. It happened to the best local dealer* in this area last Fall. We as buyers of photographic equipment need to pony up the extra to keep our local brick&mortar stores viable and profitable.
* I've sorely missed Keeble & Shuchat Photography in Palo Alto, California. Not only did they often have little bits I had to struggle to find elsewhere, but they were good people who always did right by me, gave me a place to stop and stroll through, chat a little when they weren't busy, and helped me decide what gear was actually worth putting money down on. I didn't buy everything from them, but I always tried to give them back in sales reasonable value for the service, good will, and friendship they gave willingly.
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ejpeiker
Member
If you have a relationship with the dealer, perhaps bringing the dilemma to their attention might at least get you some accessories at a discount. They probably can't discount the camera due to not wanting to annoy Hasselblad this early in the game but maybe they can throw in some extras like a spare battery or something....So...I just heard from my dealer that he has one coming in on Tuesday and will put it aside for me. :thumbup:
In an interesting twist I just popped in to a large department store in London where, because they don't really know what they're doing, they have the X1D and lenses on sale at about 10% less than they should do. It's a bit of a dilemma because the dealer I'm using has a whole bunch of my equipment that I am returning/part exchanging and I can't see an easy way logistically of backing out without seriously annoying them. Normally it would be a simple decision to stick with the dealer I use but on this occasion 10% is a lot of money....
In any case I think I'm going to have stick with him so although it hurts to pay that much more at least I can take some comfort from supporting my local dealer.
Anyway, exciting that I will likely have it in hand next week
Good idea. Not sure how much margin these dealers make but I may even tip him off where he can get more stock and make an easy 10%
Amazing. There are multiple people in the UK who claim they have been waiting for an X1D and can't get their dealer to deliver it. Yet, here is a department store of all places who not only have an X1D in stock with lenses, but are offering what amounts to a 10% discount to boot.So...I just heard from my dealer that he has one coming in on Tuesday and will put it aside for me. :thumbup:
In an interesting twist I just popped in to a large department store in London where, because they don't really know what they're doing, they have the X1D and lenses on sale at about 10% less than they should do. It's a bit of a dilemma because the dealer I'm using has a whole bunch of my equipment that I am returning/part exchanging and I can't see an easy way logistically of backing out without seriously annoying them. Normally it would be a simple decision to stick with the dealer I use but on this occasion 10% is a lot of money....
In any case I think I'm going to have stick with him so although it hurts to pay that much more at least I can take some comfort from supporting my local dealer.
Anyway, exciting that I will likely have it in hand next week
Christopher
Active member
Not only one. Or st least last time I was in London. I found two department stores selling it right away. Strange world.