Site Sponsors
Results 1 to 39 of 39

Thread: New CAMBO TS/SWING

  1. #1
    Member Clawery's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    125
    Post Thanks / Like

    New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Cambo will be releasing a new Tilt/ Swing adapter soon and I wanted to get some initial images of the prototype out for everyone to see. Pricing as well as date of availability will be following soon.

    Attached are some images of the new Tilt/Swing Lensboard for Cambo Wide DS / RS / Compact.

    The part is not yet anodised, so it looks a bit odd, so don’t mind about that.

    The upper knob drives the Tilt (over 5 degrees forward and backwards both)
    The sideplaced knob drives the Swing (over 5 degrees leftward and rightwards both)

    A unique feature is the ability to use both movements simulteanously in any combination,
    wihout need to rotate or remount an adapter.
    The pivoting axles are both really close to lens, thus avoiding the image to drift out of the center when tilting, compared to some other systems.
    Also, in comparison with the Hasselblad HTS system, our solution does NOT add any optical elements, degrading the image, and it does not effect the actual focal length…

    The mechanism has a certain thickness, so that it allows the 47XL Digitar to be operated.
    It will also host the Schneider 58,60,72,80,90,100,120 and 150.
    But also available for Rodenstock 28HR,35HR,40HR,45,55,70HR,90HR.

    Each of these lenspanels will be an optional Tilt-Swing version, apart from the original non TS version.

    Technically it is way more precise to incorporate the mechanism as one unit with the lens, which also allows for optimised alignment.
    Also this construction allows for the minimal thickness to allow for relatively shorter focal lengths.

    Cambo will also offer to retrofit existing lenspanels into T/S version.



    Chris Lawery(e-mail Me)
    __________________
    Sales Manager, Capture Integration
    Phase One, Canon, Apple, Profoto, Eizo & More
    National: 877.217.9870 | Cell: 404.234.5195
    Newsletter: Read Latest or Sign Up

  2. #2
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Oh happy day!
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  3. #3
    Senior Member kdphotography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Carmel/Tucson
    Posts
    2,355
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    This is very nice addition.

  4. #4
    Member Jeff Turner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    77
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    This news just ROCKS!!

    Now I want a Cambo RS-1000!!!
    Jeff T.
    Jeff Turner's Emerging Light Photography
    http://www.EmergingLightPhotography.com

  5. #5
    Administrator Bob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Prescott, Arizona
    Posts
    4,492
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    367

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    and when (err and how much?)
    -bob

  6. #6
    Sr. Administrator Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Los Altos, CA
    Posts
    10,486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1031

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    A W E S O M E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Jack
    home: www.getdpi.com

    "Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

  7. #7
    smei_ch
    Guest

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Does that mean I will have to remount every lens where I want to have T/S?

  8. #8
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    etrigan63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Earth, Sol System (near Miami, FL)
    Posts
    2,501
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Very nice! This mounts on a Compact as well? I may have to see about this!
    Carlos Echenique | Carlos Echenique Photography |Olympus OM-D E-M1 MK II | Olympus Pen-F - M.Zuiko 17mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 25mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 45mm f/1.8, Rokinon 12mm f/2 NCS, M.Zuiko 75mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO, M.Zuiko 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO

  9. #9
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    This should fit the WDS, WRS and Compact. Sweet!
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  10. #10
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    etrigan63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Earth, Sol System (near Miami, FL)
    Posts
    2,501
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    That would certainly give the Cambo Compact a tactical advantage over the Alpa TC. BTW, I'm not sure if I told you, but I created a Cambo Digital group on flickr.

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/cambodigital

    I would love it if you guys came over and shared some images. There wasn't any Cambo love on flickr so I figured I'd take the initiative and start one up.

    Chris,

    do you have any shots of the prototype mounted on the Compact body?
    Carlos Echenique | Carlos Echenique Photography |Olympus OM-D E-M1 MK II | Olympus Pen-F - M.Zuiko 17mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 25mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 45mm f/1.8, Rokinon 12mm f/2 NCS, M.Zuiko 75mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO, M.Zuiko 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO

  11. #11
    Administrator, Instructor Guy Mancuso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    23,623
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    2555

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    May have to get one of these now.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

    www.guymancusophotography.com

  12. #12
    Sr. Administrator Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Los Altos, CA
    Posts
    10,486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1031

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    It appears we need one unit for each lens we want tilts on though?
    Jack
    home: www.getdpi.com

    "Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

  13. #13
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    That's the way it looks to me.

    Retrofitting the lensboard rather than adding an adapter makes sense in a way - keep the lens the same distance from the sensor so focus and IQ isn't affected.

    But who knows? They might surprise us still with something else...

    Don

    Okay gotta have that first cup of coffee:sleep006:
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  14. #14
    Administrator Bob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Prescott, Arizona
    Posts
    4,492
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    367

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Looks like it might be time for a ground glass
    -bob

  15. #15
    Sr. Administrator Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Los Altos, CA
    Posts
    10,486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1031

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Yep, this would be sweet on a 47 for sure, and maybe even a 35 and 72, but not sure I'd really need/want it on anything else. And a GG does become mandatory along with the attendant swapping it out with the back, which is a hassle -- unless of course one developed a "Zen" for it, which admittedly I did for my most used lenses back in my view camera days...
    Jack
    home: www.getdpi.com

    "Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

  16. #16
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Looks like it might be time for a ground glass
    -bob
    Using the groundglass was a little easier than expected but can be made easier.

    Here's the steps that I found myself doing.

    1. Remove back
    2. Place cover over sensor
    3. Remove adapter plate
    4. Mount groundglass and begin to work
    5. Remove groundglass
    6. Remount adapter plate
    7. Remove back sensor cover
    8. Remount back and begin to work

    There's 8 movements here and if you're working outside like I do you need large pockets to hold the back and ground glass.

    While I liked working with the groundglass I can see where it could be simplified by being to remove the back and adapter plate as a whole and place a protective cover over the plate. This reduces the steps necessary and eliminates the amount of time the rear lens element is exposed. Just makes for a smother operation.

    Dave & Chris are going to get tired hearing me talk of this however I think it's the biggest shortcoming in using the groundglass; other than that I like it a lot.

    Just my 2˘

    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  17. #17
    Sr. Administrator Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Los Altos, CA
    Posts
    10,486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1031

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Don,

    That type of gear gymnastics is why a sliding back combined with solid and reliable tilt, swing and shift movements need to be designed into a single body --- and why I have not hopped aboard the tech camera bus yet...

    Maybe Sinar has done this right, or maybe Arca, but the cluge approach of adding parts to make this happen doesn't seem to be working. The Cambo TS mount looks solid enough, but the lack of sliding back option is killing that system for me precisely because of the gyrations you describe above. In the end, I am wondering if it wouldn't simply be easier to back to a regular view camera?

    Right now I am using pano-stiching and focus-stacking software with my basic MF SLR to achieve these goals, and frankly think I'm a bit ahead of the game by doing so -- I certainly am ahead in the money department and the images while not perfect, don't suck technically. Yes, the tech lenses are better than any of the current manufacturer lenses, and yes they have wider options, but at the end of the day, the effort required to get a perfectly captured image to the sensor seems excessive for the net results.

    Am I missing something?
    Jack
    home: www.getdpi.com

    "Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

  18. #18
    Administrator Bob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Prescott, Arizona
    Posts
    4,492
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    367

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    How about this idea?
    I looked at my adapter plate and the closest to back lens I own (35 Digitar XL)
    It looks like there is plenty of clearance to mount some of that self-adhesive magnetic weatherstrip on the lens-side of the adapter plate. I guess it could be close to a dust-tight seal if you are careful about mitering the magnetic strip and framing the opening with minimum gaps. Then a small sheet of crs cut to size and maybe edged with some black tape would do the trick. You might even consider having it painted or plated for rust prevention. Actually, any magnetic alloy would do.
    It might work as a home-made solution.
    -bob

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Clawery View Post
    Cambo will be releasing a new Tilt/ Swing adapter soon
    Thanks for the info - good to know!
    Do you happen to know if the zero settings for tilt and swing are geared/locked?
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Using the groundglass was a little easier than expected but can be made easier.
    I pack the camera in my case without the back mounted. When shooting mostly I mount the groundglass and the view finder - http://www.cambo.com/Html/products_p.../Item6842.html - with the respective mask. I make a rough compostion with the view finder (even before I set up the tripod and camera), then use the groundglass to fine adjust and especially to see the accurate center point of the image (which is NOT possible with the view finder). Then I mount the back and do the rest with the view finder where you get a good idea of the crop and the shifts as the indicators on the finder masks are relatively close to what you shoot (when you know the center point of the capture).
    Last edited by thomas; 20th June 2009 at 08:13.

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Yes, the tech lenses are better than any of the current manufacturer lenses, and yes they have wider options, but at the end of the day, the effort required to get a perfectly captured image to the sensor seems excessive for the net results.
    Jack... this is true to some extend. But once you get used to work with a certain setup you are getting faster and it does NOT require more efforts to get good results.
    Firstly with wide angles you mostly shoot at infinity and if the lens is adjusted well you always get terrific results.
    Secondly if you once "studied" your lens you get a feeling how to focus if it's not at infinity. I use a laser distometer and match accurate focus even at closer distances. If totally accurate focus is required tethered shooting is the most safe way to go certainly (and if possible I do) but if not you can do some kind of manual focus bracketing as well. When stitching, sure, then you have to do the entire series again and again for every focus setting.
    Agreed - all the many steps sound complicated and annoying (and they are in fact) but if you just do it, just work with the gear you own (either way which one), you get used to it and it is working and you get very good results.

  21. #21
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    my preference is generally to hold the lens in one place and tilt/swing/shift the back

  22. #22
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    I agree with Thomas. It may sound complicated but after a few tries it really work smoothly. Is it a PIA to remove the back and plate separately? Short answer is yes, that why I'm looking for some type of container to place the back attached to the plate into for temporary storage. (I'm working on a possible solution in my dark evil workshop)

    A sliding back might be better however you also add bulk and for me that's not worth it as I don't need to use the groundglass all the time. I also can't see how a sliding back would work on the WRS due to the physical limitations.

    Most of my shots are all set to infinity unless I'm stacking so once you develop your own workflow the effort is well worthwhile.

    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  23. #23
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    carstenw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Berlin, Germany
    Posts
    2,530
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    my preference is generally to hold the lens in one place and tilt/swing/shift the back
    It depends what you want to do. I personally would prefer shift on the back, so that the lens stays in one place, but tilt on the front, so that the back can stay parallel to a building or wall, for example, avoiding convergence of lines.
    Carsten - Website

  24. #24
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Just found out that the back attached to the adapter plate fits in a Lowepro 1W lens bag. I'll try this in real life later next week. While it might not be perfect it does help eliminate a couple steps and should still protect the sensor.

    Don

    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  25. #25
    Sr. Administrator Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Los Altos, CA
    Posts
    10,486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1031

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    my preference is generally to hold the lens in one place and tilt/swing/shift the back
    As common as it is to "pull" the back for DoF in landscape shooting, moving the back off square imparts geometric distortion, and is problematic with regular subjects like architecture. In the end, if you can only have one end tilt, it is preferable for it to be the lens.

    So, for our tech cameras with limited space, the ideal is shifts at the back and tilts and swings up front. The added advantage of this arrangement is we can stitch the back across a tilted and locked lens field for continuous DoF between the frames.
    Jack
    home: www.getdpi.com

    "Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

  26. #26
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    if i am shooting a facade at an oblique angle, i frame the shot then start swinging the back until i get the focal plane to match the facade. habit from using a sinar P. if i wanted the facade "square" i would have to shoot it with the back parallel to the facade and the only way to get the focal plane to match the facade would be to have the lens square to the facade...in other words a straight on shot, maybe shifted. what i dislike about lens movements is that the image moves around, requiring back movements. once the t and s is out of the way, back shifts can tweak framing without changing focus or for stitches

  27. #27
    Sr. Administrator Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Los Altos, CA
    Posts
    10,486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1031

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Of course, but it doesn't work as well for tilts So yes, I hear you, and if given the choice, I would keep tilt and rise up front and shift and swing at the rear -- but that doesn't sound very practical from a design standpoint.
    Jack
    home: www.getdpi.com

    "Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence."

  28. #28
    Senior Member etrump's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,206
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Changing the lens is enough of a hassle that I just can't imagine switch the back and ground glass for every composition. For critical focus it might be worth it though.

    Those with viewfinder experience, is it close enough for general composition then take a few shots to finalize with the LCD a reasonable assumption?

  29. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Those with viewfinder experience, is it close enough for general composition then take a few shots to finalize with the LCD a reasonable assumption?
    depends on your demands. It's certainly possible to use the finder for rough composition and fine adjust with the LCD. But only on the groundglass you can check accurate leveling/panning and composition.

  30. #30
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    depends on your demands. It's certainly possible to use the finder for rough composition and fine adjust with the LCD. But only on the groundglass you can check accurate leveling/panning and composition.
    I do not have nor ever used a viewfinder with my WRS. I normally use the levels on the body to check level and so far have not had any problems.

    The intent of the groundglass is to help me when using filters. While Thomas is certainly correct about using the groundglass for checking the accuracy in the leveling/panning my experience has shown you really don't need to if you take your time in setting the camera up prior. If the camera is perfectly level then you'll have no problems with panning (pan the camera and watch the camera bubbles - they should not move from center, if they do you aren't level.). The groundglass can help in composition however the lcd is just as good. Another thing I do while setting up the shot is look directly over the camera using the shoe as an aiming device to "see" the composition based on the lens being used. Every once in a while I'm off and when I do I just reshoot adding a certain amount of movement. It certainly gets easier with time and practice.

    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  31. #31
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Changing the lens is enough of a hassle...
    Hi Ed

    Please pardon me for cherry picking your response for a quote however I wanted to address the lens hassle...

    I've never had a system that was as easy as the WDS or WRS in changing lens. The WDS requires the operator to use move one locking lever and the WRS requires two. Very easy and very fast with either system.

    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  32. #32
    Senior Member etrump's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,206
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Hi Ed

    Please pardon me for cherry picking your response for a quote however I wanted to address the lens hassle...

    I've never had a system that was as easy as the WDS or WRS in changing lens. The WDS requires the operator to use move one locking lever and the WRS requires two. Very easy and very fast with either system.

    Don
    Don,

    My choice of words was not the greatest. I didn't intend to sound negative changing the lens on the WRS. As you state, it is not difficult when your standing on the ground but in knee deep water or in the rain, changing anything is a hassle. Especially when you have as many thumbs as I do. (I almost dropped my 35XL in the Little River at GSMNP so I am a little apprehensive about switching the back.)

    I like the idea of the ground glass but am going to Antarctica next year and would like to shoot the cambo for the IQ. A lot of shooting takes place from the ship so hand-holding is a must. I am thinking the viewfinder might be close enough that minor cropping to finish things off would not be a problem.

    Ed

  33. #33
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    The groundglass can help in composition however the lcd is just as good.
    I do a lot of architectural stuff and here the bigger view on the groundglass and the indicators and lines on the groundglass are really helpfull. I doubt that you can see if the building is turned 1° or so not because of the camera is not accurate in level but because you are half a meter off the center of the building (or whatever) ... Mostly you see it with you eyes but sometimes not.

  34. #34
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Don,

    My choice of words was not the greatest. I didn't intend to sound negative changing the lens on the WRS. As you state, it is not difficult when your standing on the ground but in knee deep water or in the rain, changing anything is a hassle. Especially when you have as many thumbs as I do. (I almost dropped my 35XL in the Little River at GSMNP so I am a little apprehensive about switching the back.)

    I like the idea of the ground glass but am going to Antarctica next year and would like to shoot the cambo for the IQ. A lot of shooting takes place from the ship so hand-holding is a must. I am thinking the viewfinder might be close enough that minor cropping to finish things off would not be a problem.

    Ed
    Ed - Okay now you told the rest of the story!

    I can just image standing knee deep in flowing water and changing anything. If I had the choice between a lens or the orientation of the back I'd choose the lens - maybe. I've never had a moments problem changing a lens while I will admit to having some slight difficulties with the back. Sometimes I have problems seating the adapter back into the back while other times I do it very easily. I doubt seriously if I'd entertain the thought of switching the back to the groundglass and back again. I think if I even thought I'd need to do that I'd go into the water with the groundglass on so there's one less movement to be done.

    I like the idea of shooting in the Antarctica and would more than likely invest in a viewfinder for the trip.

    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  35. #35
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    I do a lot of architectural stuff and here the bigger view on the groundglass and the indicators and lines on the groundglass are really helpfull. I doubt that you can see if the building is turned 1° or so not because of the camera is not accurate in level but because you are half a meter off the center of the building (or whatever) ... Mostly you see it with you eyes but sometimes not.
    Thomas you bring up several valid points with the key one being not to assume everyone shoots the same. I'm so keyed into landscape photography that I completely forgot the fact that these type of cameras are perfect fit for architectural photography. If I were shooting architectural images then I'd be using a groundglass fulltime and more than likely on a slightly different platform. I had the pleasure of trying out a Cambo Ultima and while I loved everything about it I just couldn't see it from the huge weight factor fitting into what I do.

    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  36. #36
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Thomas you bring up several valid points with the key one being not to assume everyone shoots the same. I'm so keyed into landscape photography that I completely forgot the fact that these type of cameras are perfect fit for architectural photography. If I were shooting architectural images then I'd be using a groundglass fulltime and more than likely on a slightly different platform. I had the pleasure of trying out a Cambo Ultima and while I loved everything about it I just couldn't see it from the huge weight factor fitting into what I do.
    :-)
    The plattform is okay! It's small, light and does basically everything a Alpa Max does. Bit more lateral shift as the Alpa and all movements on the back (here the Alpa Max is similar to the WDS - but you can mount an adapter so that the Max can shift 4 way on the back as far as I know). The WRS is just less expensive (though with individual lens mounts). A sliding back (with adapter, so detachable) would be fine. And I find the quality of the accessories somewhat poor (the accessories of Alpa are great!). Today I bought a 6x loupe with aspherical lens to focus on the groundglass... hell, what a difference to the "lens" in that regular flimsy flexible focussing hood! With this loupe even the dark groundglass is okay (actually it is not okay... it's just too dark). Well, an optional groundglass with Fresnel would be fine, too. You can order that stuff elsewhere but it would be fine if you could just order directly from Cambo and everything fits.

  37. #37
    Member Clawery's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    125
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    I have been told that the estimated retrofit price will be $1295.00 per lens and will take 3-4 days. Cambo will start retrofitting in early September.

    Chris Lawery(e-mail Me)
    __________________
    Sales Manager, Capture Integration
    Phase One, Canon, Apple, Profoto, Eizo & More
    National: 877.217.9870 | Cell: 404.234.5195
    Newsletter: Read Latest or Sign Up

  38. #38
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    32° 31' 37.06" N, 111° 6' 0.9" W
    Posts
    4,334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    It'll be interesting to see what the price of a new lens mounted will be. I guess Cambo will now begin to offer choices in lensboards priced accordingly.


    Don
    Don Libby
    Iron Creek Photography
    Blog
    Tucson AZ

  39. #39
    Member Clawery's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    125
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: New CAMBO TS/SWING

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    It'll be interesting to see what the price of a new lens mounted will be. I guess Cambo will now begin to offer choices in lensboards priced accordingly.


    Don
    I hope to have an extended price list with all lenses and lens options soon. I will post it as soon as I have it.

    Chris Lawery(e-mail Me)
    __________________
    Sales Manager, Capture Integration
    Phase One, Canon, Apple, Profoto, Eizo & More
    National: 877.217.9870 | Cell: 404.234.5195
    Newsletter: Read Latest or Sign Up

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •