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Photon42;805083 Did you look into the 1.8/85 Z? Relatively small said:What Photon said. I still use the 105 2.5 Ai which used to be a standard long lens for photojournalists the world over. I have sold or am selling all my F mount lenses except the 105.
I did try the Z 85mm 1.8S and thought it was very good, but it lacked character. The MTF charts show its incredible performance, but it just doesn't have that special rendering of the 105mm 1.4 even when shot at f/1.8. This of course, is just my opinion, but perfect resolution doesn't always make for a great lens. Oddly, my Z 50mm 1.8 S has imo, more character and better rendering than almost any lens i've ever used. The 105mm 1.4 is a great lens with a very unique character when shot wide open, so if needing AF, I'd probably go that route. Prices on a LNIB 105mm 1.4 have sold for under $1300 recently, which might be attributed to the Z 85mm 1.8 reviews. I did order a 105mm f/2.5 AI-s for under $200 and am excited to try that one too. The 135mm DC is a lens I have not tried, but the 105mm DC was actually very good on my D810.
ha-ha, yes, you are sure right Keith, for portrait it will be more realistic with at least 2.8 or f4 for human beings..How many here shoot portraits at f/1.4 or f/1.8 and if you are then are you getting the eyes and the nose in focus?
But are you getting the eyes and nose in focus on portraits at f/1.4?I primarily use wide open on almost every shoot regardless of what lens I use. The 105mm 1.4 has been the nicest so far with AF, but prices are reflecting the popularity of the Z 85mm. The Nikon 105mm f/2.5 will be fun to try.
Depends on the distance, for a full body portrait with a 105 mm lens on a 24x36 mm sensor dof at f 1.4 is about 18 cm at 5 meter distance, so enough to get eyes and nose in focus. For a waist up portrait at 2,5 meter it's 4.4 cm, so marginally possible but close. A headshot portrait at 1 meter gives a dof of 7 mm, so no chance to get both the eyes and the tip of the nose in focus (except maybe with a bulldog).But are you getting the eyes and nose in focus on portraits at f/1.4?
I'm impressed by your calculations, Pieter! :thumbup:Depends on the distance, for a full body portrait with a 105 mm lens on a 24x36 mm sensor dof at f 1.4 is about 18 cm at 5 meter distance, so enough to get eyes and nose in focus. For a waist up portrait at 2,5 meter it's 4.4 cm, so marginally possible but close. A headshot portrait at 1 meter gives a dof of 7 mm, so no chance to get both the eyes and the tip of the nose in focus (except maybe with a bulldog).
Thanks Thorkil, but no need to be impressed. I just used HyperFocalPro on my phone.I'm impressed by your calculations, Pieter! :thumbup:
Agreed, but I tend to think of portraits as head and shoulders: possibly my bad.Depends on the distance, for a full body portrait with a 105 mm lens on a 24x36 mm sensor dof at f 1.4 is about 18 cm at 5 meter distance, so enough to get eyes and nose in focus. For a waist up portrait at 2,5 meter it's 4.4 cm, so marginally possible but close. A headshot portrait at 1 meter gives a dof of 7 mm, so no chance to get both the eyes and the tip of the nose in focus (except maybe with a bulldog).
Environmental portraits are a great way to encompass the surrounding area to add a specific narrative to a portrait. I typically would use the Z 50mm 1.8 and simply back up for a wider perspective of a 35mm lens. At f/1.8 the Z 50mm gives a few inches of DOF depending on my distance to the subject.Agreed, but I tend to think of portraits as head and shoulders: possibly my bad.
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Rather spooky, but environmental portraits are my lifeblood, often shot wide or near wide open. See my India galleries.Environmental portraits are a great way to encompass the surrounding area to add a specific narrative to a portrait. I typically would use the Z 50mm 1.8 and simply back up for a wider perspective of a 35mm lens. At f/1.8 the Z 50mm gives a few inches of DOF depending on my distance to the subject.
You mean back up for wider framing. Since obviously when you back up the perspective changes.Environmental portraits are a great way to encompass the surrounding area to add a specific narrative to a portrait. I typically would use the Z 50mm 1.8 and simply back up for a wider perspective of a 35mm lens. At f/1.8 the Z 50mm gives a few inches of DOF depending on my distance to the subject.
at same f-stop same magnification gives you same DOF on all lenses^^.... At f/1.8 the Z 50mm gives a few inches of DOF depending on my distance to the subject.
Right, but I meant to compare it to the DOF of a 1.4. I should've made that clear. Thanks.at same f-stop same magnification gives you same DOF on all lenses^^