will not likely upgrade and just keep it. The workarounds I have created for live view work well enough and it is still just 50MP so that is that I guess.
Same here. I am holding out for the IMX461 100MP, 16-bit, BSI sensor version.
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will not likely upgrade and just keep it. The workarounds I have created for live view work well enough and it is still just 50MP so that is that I guess.
Thank you very much Bill, that is much appreciated. Like you, I backpack a lot, and weight / bulk saving is of importance to me. As well, I do landscape only, so if the lenses are great between f/8 - f/16 it's enough for me. Third, I'd love to have a "real" manual focusing lens with a distance scale on it.Thanks Vieri,
The short answer is that in my normal use I’ve been very happy with them. That said, I’m a bit embarrassed to add, that I haven’t done any formal, or informal, testing of theses lenses. I will say that the recent postings of your lens tests has been inspiring so time willing I might try to quantify my experience a bit.
Although it took me a while, I think I’ve finally learned that usability trumps exceptional quality, for me, most of the time. I have no doubt that the XCD lenses exceed the Xpan lenses in every way, well expect for weight and size. I have a 5 day backpack trip to Mt Robson in British Columbia next month and the 2 or so pounds the Xpan kit saves is hugely significant.
I won’t hijack this post any further but let me know if you’d like me to send you some files.
Cheers, Bill
All your points are very valid and I might be the only one who routinely uses the Hasselblad Xpan adapter and Xpan lenses. One additional negative is that the interface between the adapter and the Xpan lenses isn't light tight, so definitely not weather sealed. I have a simple solution to the light leaks but weather would still be an issue. As far as stop down focusing, that's become second nature to me and I don't find it a hindrance at all. And the true manual focus lenses are a joy to use. Especially with filters as I'm sure you can appreciate. I must be in the minority in that auto focus doesn't add a thing to my workflow for either landscapes or architecture. Hopefully I can find the time to quantify the quality of the Xpan lenses on the 50mp sensor.Thank you very much Bill, that is much appreciated. Like you, I backpack a lot, and weight / bulk saving is of importance to me. As well, I do landscape only, so if the lenses are great between f/8 - f/16 it's enough for me. Third, I'd love to have a "real" manual focusing lens with a distance scale on it.
Possible downsides, image quality aside: the X-Pan lenses are probably not weather sealed; you'd have to open them up and stop them down to use them (especially in low light), which is a pain; and electronic shutter might create some problem if I had to photograph something that moves faster than what I normally shoot (which happens, sometimes).
Not to mention that they are not readily available. I wish I hadn't sold my X-Pan kit years ago.
Best regards,
Vieri
Bill,All your points are very valid and I might be the only one who routinely uses the Hasselblad Xpan adapter and Xpan lenses. One additional negative is that the interface between the adapter and the Xpan lenses isn't light tight, so definitely not weather sealed. I have a simple solution to the light leaks but weather would still be an issue. As far as stop down focusing, that's become second nature to me and I don't find it a hindrance at all. And the true manual focus lenses are a joy to use. Especially with filters as I'm sure you can appreciate. I must be in the minority in that auto focus doesn't add a thing to my workflow for either landscapes or architecture. Hopefully I can find the time to quantify the quality of the Xpan lenses on the 50mp sensor.
So far, for the types of subjects I usually shoot, the electronic shutter seems to be performing great. But to be fair most all of my images are captured from a tripod. This would be typical the landscape images I take using the X1D and Xpan lenses.
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Cheers, Bill
Joe,...
Adapters are notorious for light leaks. Always check them first by taking a long exposure with the lens completely covered.
Joe
I had to send the first M Adapter L back as it was actually too tight: I refused to force it so hard. The replacement they sent me fit snugly and precisely. Neither of my M Adapter L or R Adapter M has ever shown a light leak. Rayqual and Novoflex adapters have been very good too.Joe,
that's sadly true. I had pretty good luck with Leica's own L-M adapters to use M lenses on the SL, which were very tight almost to the point of being hard to use. My X1D to Leica M adapter (Novoflex) is less tight, the lens has a little play but at least it's light-tight.
Best regards,
Vieri
I have the Hasselblad adapter. I started with the Kipon and it was a mess but the Hassy is nice. My simple solution for leaks between the adapter and the Xpan lens is "hair bands" that I keep on each lens and just roll down to the adapter interface. Take 10 time longer to type than to use. Sorry for the bad cell phone pic.Bill,
thank you very much for your message and for expanding on the subject. One thing you said left me a bit worried:
"One additional negative is that the interface between the adapter and the Xpan lenses isn't light tight,"
might I ask you if you are using Hasselblad's own adapter or a third-party one? As well, have you contacted the adapter's manufacturer to report this, and if so what did they tell you? That is puzzling to hear, adapters often have a little play or something like that, but not being light-tight seems to be a major problem for something made to take photos
Best regards,
Vieri
I completely agree with most all of the reasons that
the new Hasselblad CFV ii 50C and 907X are exciting. And I'm also very anxious to use it alongside my Hasselblad film kit. But for me it adds another potential win, being small and lightweight. I currently backpack with my X1D and a small kit of 3 Xpan lenses. This combined with a Gitzo traveler tripod is about 8 1/2 pounds. I absolutely love the X1D and sometimes feel that it was custom made for me and my type of long exposure landscape photography. I would only have two minor issues with it. First I'd love a tilt screen and second, I rarely use the viewfinder. So yea the new CFV is exciting. Provided the price is right.
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I am also hopeful that the pricing will be in line with the new X1D since I'm more likely to upgrade to the CFV that the X1D2. Fingers crossed.
In terms of pixel-peeping image quality, the newer lenses are probably better over all. However some (but not all) of the old V system Zeiss lenses are excellent and retain that je ne sais quoi Zeiss magic when used on high-resolution MF sensors, at least to my eyes. Carefully chosen, these old lenses (and you) can gain a new life via adapters if you already happen to own them. The few hundred bucks to buy an adapter is a bargain, especially in these inner circles of Dante's Inferno. All this assumes you can work within the limitations of the electronic shutter.I’ve been using my 4116 day one till now, I’m Loving it and have no plan to upgrade to X1D2. However, after a little struggle, I place an order to the CFV2 set last night. I miss my V system and I particularly fond of using my 100mm. But I’ve heard many say the old lens perform terribly on digital back. I mainly do landscape, I think X1D serves me very well with the present lens system line up.
Would anyone has the same problem as I do?
This was an often stated claim when Pentax released the 645D. Yes, some of the old Pentax lenses do not do well, but many of them do. Two of my sharpest are the old A-series manual focus lenses: A35mm and A120mm macro. I would imagine that 100mm lens is going to be worth trying.But I’ve heard many say the old lens perform terribly on digital back.
Hello Will,This was an often stated claim when Pentax released the 645D. Yes, some of the old Pentax lenses do not do well, but many of them do. Two of my sharpest are the old A-series manual focus lenses: A35mm and A120mm macro. I would imagine that 100mm lens is going to be worth trying.