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    There is a neat little Richard Franiec stick-on grip due out in early August, if you like that sort of thing.

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    B&H now have them in stock.
    Still waiting for a disenchanted member to help me out, LOL.
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    I ordered one today from amazon with the little handle that Uwe recommended, I think I maybe selling my NEX7 kit as much as I love the camera, I think i will be fine with he rx100, D800/e and my tech view camera.....
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    A quick question . . .
    can you take it out of your pocket with one hand and shoot - without using the other hand . . . . . .
    It may sound like an odd question . . .
    Jono: Yes, I just did it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Damn - then I think it's hard to resist.
    "resistance is futile"

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    >I think i will be fine with he rx100, D800/e and my tech view camera.....

    For me the RX100 and D800. Still looking whether there is use/need for a mirrorless system. If it would be the E-M5 (and I have Gh2, NEX-7, Nikon V1).

    For video the GH2, RX100 and HX9V (for the longer zoom range).

    So far the RX100 is the most usable small P&S camera I have used.
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    Beautiful shot, Matt. I hope mine will arrive safely tomorrow
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    David: Thanks! Have fun with yours.

    Here's a couple more. The third is a processed RAW crop from the fourth unprocessed image.

    RX100; 10.4mm; 1/160s @ f/5.6; ISO 125


    RX100; 10.4mm; 1/400s @ f/5.6; ISO 125


    RX100; 10.4mm; 1/400s @ f/5.6; ISO 125


    RX100; 10.4mm; 1/400s @ f/5.6; ISO 125


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    The first image with the red flowers in the out of focus regions (bottom right) renders them very weirdly, alarmingly so, nothing wrong with how you take the images. Just an observation!
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    Hmmm... I just assumed that they're from some art effects or filters... it can't be the actual image, can it?
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    Mine came today Wonderful little thing! At first, I wasn't sure how to hold it because it's so small. A lot of the features and modes reminds me of the NEX-5n that I had. The zoom range covers the basic needs and aperture is fast enough at the wide end. I think I made the right decision to have this to accompany the M9 instead of the OM-D.
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by pophoto View Post
    The first image with the red flowers in the out of focus regions (bottom right) renders them very weirdly, alarmingly so, nothing wrong with how you take the images. Just an observation!
    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    Hmmm... I just assumed that they're from some art effects or filters... it can't be the actual image, can it?
    I tweaked it!

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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    How in the world has anyone managed to get the handstrap attached through the eyelet?

    Is there a secret known only to the Sony Illuminati?

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    >Is there a secret known only to the Sony Illuminati?

    Very easy: You have to have luck :-)
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    pinch it together and push it through... I do wish it to be bigger so I can install the Op/Tech finger strap.

    Some initial settings:
    - menu start: previous
    - mode dial guide: off
    - AF illuminator: off
    - audio signals: off
    - control ring: picture effect (since the function wheel has the same function as "standard", I rather have the control ring do something different. I'll change it when the effects are no longer fun and when I start shoot more raw.

    One thing I noticed was that the "water color" and "illustration" effects can be applied to any photo that was taken before, so I might not use them as much and only apply the effects later. The other effects are similar to the NEX, and I still like the two BW effects (rich and high contrast).
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    Quote Originally Posted by m_driscoll View Post
    I tweaked it!

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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    OK, time for some images... my "drive-by shooting" is now more fun!







    BTW, I did find a way to put on my finger strap which has slightly thicker string. Out of the box, the camera came with a paper tag that has the sony thin string, un-tie it. Then stick one end of the thin string through the loop of the strap. Thread both end of the thin string through the eyelet and pull really hard until the thicker loop is pulled through. Voila!
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    Actually I forgot that I used a paper clip to help the string go through.
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Actually I forgot that I used a paper clip to help the string go through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    Mine came today Wonderful little thing! At first, I wasn't sure how to hold it because it's so small. A lot of the features and modes reminds me of the NEX-5n that I had. The zoom range covers the basic needs and aperture is fast enough at the wide end. I think I made the right decision to have this to accompany the M9 instead of the OM-D.
    Not fighting for any of these cameras here, but just being curious why you think that the RX100 colors are superior to the OMD ones (as you say in another thread that OMD did not come close enough to M9 colors and IQ)? I feel exactly the opposite and also feel that the OMD output is much closer to M9 than the RX100 output.

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    Hi there, I don't think RX100's IQ is any better either. But the point is, I wouldn't even try to compare them to the M9. If I still have the OMD, there will always be an internal argument with myself as to why should I use OMD instead of M9 when I clearly prefer the M9. However, there is no such debate with the RX100, because there is no overlap with the M9 so it's easy for me to decide which camera to use based on the circumstances. I hope this makes sense... it's just less to think about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    Hi there, I don't think RX100's IQ is any better either. But the point is, I wouldn't even try to compare them to the M9. If I still have the OMD, there will always be an internal argument with myself as to why should I use OMD instead of M9 when I clearly prefer the M9. However, there is no such debate with the RX100, because there is no overlap with the M9 so it's easy for me to decide which camera to use based on the circumstances. I hope this makes sense... it's just less to think about
    Got it, thanks. Makes sense.

    Why did you not consider a X2 to complement the M9? The longer I am looking at the X2 the more I want one. Especially if I would need a compact P&S aside an M9.

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    Not sure, just like the X100, it never interested me. Maybe it's the fixed focal lens, I just never look deep into it. The RX100, though, it's probably more for my wife than for me, so it's extreme small size is a big plus, since it'll be in her purse instead of my camera bag
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    Just got my RX100 today, really like it. I will be putting my NEX7 kit up for sale soon.
    I am for sure going to order Richard Franiec stick-on grip, It should make the camera easier to handle.
    The RX100 will compliment my D800/E and larger Tech View Camera.
    Now if can find a nice case for it I will be set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuau View Post
    Now if can find a nice case for it I will be set.
    hehe.. I thought about that... Then I thought: "what about my pocket?" Perfect place for it, just make sure I don't put the keys in the same pocket :P While I also want to add the grip, but I'm afraid it'll make it less "pocketable".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post

    Why did you not consider a X2 to complement the M9? The longer I am looking at the X2 the more I want one. Especially if I would need a compact P&S aside an M9.

    $650 vs $2000 is probably a big factor for many folks

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    THe following image just shows how nice the landscape can be just parking at Morgan Hill's Trader Joe's :-)

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    Here's my latest video, an RX100 field test. Hopefully this will answer some questions, especially about the video abilities.
    Sony RX100 Hands-On Field Test (With NX70 Review) - YouTube
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    Copying over this question which I posted a few days ago in sony forum:

    I have a question for RX100 owners about its automated modes (Program or Av). Do you know what is typically the lowest shutter speed that it chooses in those modes? My s95 has this tendency to often choose 1/20s as a shutter speed in low light levels to avoid bumping the ISO too much. That works well for static scenes as the image stabilization is very effective on it. And frankly it is rather poor at anything above ISO 400 so its good that it tries to keep the ISO down. However as a result indoor people shots have a high probability of being blurred, as 1/20s is not really a fast enough shutter speed for people shots. And of course with my 4 year daughter the chances of getting a blur-free shot are even less. So wondering how does RX100 behave in such situations? If I get the RX100 it will more often than not be used in program or Av modes so this is an important consideration for me.

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    This video mentioned low lens distortions. Yes, for JPEG. For Raw your raw converter has to deal with it: outbackphoto - News - Sony RX100, Raw and Lens*Distortions
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    curious80, for auto ISO, you can set the range you will allow, but it doesn't have a min/max setting for shutter speed. As far as I can tell, while in A mode and in a dark scene, the camera will use whatever shutter speed it needs to have proper exposure. However, I leave my S-mode on 1/60 to get around this. When I see the shutter speed is to slow, I just switch to S-mode and adjust it since that's my primary concern at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    I know everybody's all excited about this "big" sensor compact camera, but just a reminder...
    The sensor may be bigger on the M9, but the price without lens is 10x as much. Plus you can't put it in your pocket or do videos with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    The sensor may be bigger on the M9, but the price without lens is 10x as much. Plus you can't put it in your pocket or do videos with it.
    Actually I owned a number of high-end P&S cameras, starting from Contax models back in the film days till several Dlux's, G10, XZ1, etc., in the digital world.

    I must say that I never really used them other than in the first few days or weeks after I bought them. Then they went out of my pocket and stayed somewhere in my closet, till I sold them for the next and better P&S.

    So I opted this time - after digesting all the features and the starting hype about the RX100 - which BTW really seems to be a stunning and capable small camera - to stay away from buying one.

    BTW I always need to force myself to use any camera for video. Good video takes a lot of thinking and arranging and I am already so busy doing this for photography, that I simply could not care less about video features.

    Rather waiting for the M10 as my next P&S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    curious80, for auto ISO, you can set the range you will allow, but it doesn't have a min/max setting for shutter speed. As far as I can tell, while in A mode and in a dark scene, the camera will use whatever shutter speed it needs to have proper exposure. However, I leave my S-mode on 1/60 to get around this. When I see the shutter speed is to slow, I just switch to S-mode and adjust it since that's my primary concern at that point.

    ...
    Thanks for the response. I am fine if it uses slow shutter speeds in situations where it has no other choice. However my S95 will happily choose ISO 80 1/20s every time instead of say doing 1/50s at ISO 200. I would like it to use such low shutter speeds only when it has reached the end of usable ISO (lets say ISO 400 on that camera). So I am trying to understand which behavior does RX100 have, does it try to stick to the base ISO or very low ISOs even if it means using a very low shutter speed, or is it willing to choose slightly higher ISOs (within AutoISO limits) to ensure that shutter speed doesn't go too low.

    Switching to S mode certainly helps. However I am more concerned about making the camera wife-proof, as she is likely going to use it much more than I do.

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    Hi all, Picked up the camera about 5 days ago, and it's quite a fantastic companion. Here are a few...from the past few...















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    Quote Originally Posted by curious80 View Post
    Switching to S mode certainly helps. However I am more concerned about making the camera wife-proof, as she is likely going to use it much more than I do.
    Hi there, I have the same concern and I will also be loaning it to my mother for her cruise trip coming up. I'm leaning to tell her to just use the "Superior Auto mode", which is suppose to evaluate the scene and choose the best settings to reduce motion blur and etc. One thing that I have tried with the NEX-5n camera was the twilight anti-motion blur mode, which will take up to 6 quick shots and stack them to improve exposure, and it worked quite well if the subject wasn't moving much.

    Ashwin, nice to have you on board! There is certainly no more reasons for us to not have a camera with us all the time now, huh?
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    Filmed with Sony HX9V (daylight) and Sony RX100 (night) at 1080p60
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    outbackphoto - News - Sony RX100 Video: Hollister*Fair
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    Uwe,
    are you shooting in raw mode and processing using Sony's IDC software?
    I have been trying IDC software which seems to work ok I guess but I am trying to figure out the sharpening settings.

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    >are you shooting in raw mode and processing using Sony's IDC software?

    Yes, no :-). I shoot raw and use different beta raw converters. Not disclosed in more detail at this point.
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    Here are some early shots to feed the pool. These were JPEG + post work. Looking forward to RAW! Really excellent camera as is and can only get better.













    Full set with more (high res) here: Sony RX100 - a set on Flickr
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    One week in with the Sony RX100..... Some shots in various settings, daytime, night outdoor party, indoors, general random shots.. what is good, what is not?

    IQ is excellent, not up to the A77 in low ISO and good lighting, but generally excellent and certainly the premium compact camera. The flash is surprisingly accurate and has more power than the size would suggest. The camera can do it, the success of the shot is up to me now I guess.

    Compared to the ergonomics of the LX5, controls are a bit fiddly and for sure it needs a grip... I have one from Richard Franiec on order, but without it worries me as I have t use a wrist strap, not easy to pick up and use.. where is the shutter button?? My fingers do not drop on the shutter as I am holding it secure as possible and the index finger is not where it should be.

    All things considered, it is well worth the money, well done Sony.

    Some shots taken in past week....

    DSC-RX100, f/6.3 @ 15.64 mm, 1/800, ISO 125


    Same location as above, Full Zoom plus Clear View RX100, f/7.1 @ 37.1 mm, 1/800, ISO 125


    RX100, f/5.6 @ 15.1 mm, 1/800, ISO 125


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    SONY DSC-RX100, f/3.2 @ 18.23 mm, 1/30, ISO 200, Flash


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    RX100, f/5.6 @ 37.1 mm, 1/800, ISO 100
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    I'm beginning to think the RX100 is more of a "game changer" than the NEX series.
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    I'm beginning to think the RX100 is more of a "game changer" than the NEX series.
    Not sure anymore ....

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    >Not sure anymore ....

    Could you give any argument?
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    Re: Sony RX100 - getting started

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    Filmed with Sony HX9V (daylight) and Sony RX100 (night) at 1080p60
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    outbackphoto - News - Sony RX100 Video: Hollister*Fair
    Excuse my ignorance, but during the carousel shots it appears as though when you pan slightly the zoom is going forward and backward in little spurts. What is the cause? ( 1:20-1:30 mark)

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