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    Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

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    seems to me that this makes both of them meaningless. I can even see why you might just remove 4/3 (although I'd think it sad), but fusing them?
    It doesn't seem to me to make a lot of sense.

    More I think of it, the more I think it isn't right - put it in with 'other cameras' if you must, but 'small sensor' is misleading. The really good thing about the small sensor forum is that, for a change, it was advertising what you CAN do with a small sensor camera, as opposed to what you CAN'T do. 4/3 sensors are normally around 8 times the size, a completely different thing, I think it will remove the point of both.
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    Maybe it reflects the moves Jack and Guy have been making in the medium format realm. Using those huge sensors probably changes one's perspective. Next thing you know, the Canon and Nikon APS-C and 35mm DSLRs will also join the Small Sensor forum. Small is relative .

    Seriously though Jono, I tend to agree with you here. Never thought that the Sigma DP1 belonged there either. I'd change the "Small Sensor" forum to a "Compact Cameras" forum. That way, the DP1 and future larger sensor compacts would continue to belong there. If there isn't enough interest in Four Thirds to warrant a separate forum, then I think Four Thirds camera discussion ought to take place under "Other Cameras."

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    I will let Jack explain a little further but basically we were just organizing better and putting the categories by format size. There was only 43 threads in 4/3's so we put them in small sensors group. Not sure why we had them separated in the first place . We added a forum and just tried to clean the place up spring cleaning a little late. LOL
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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    We can do anything and move it anywhere, but thought we were helping by merging the 4/3 with small sensor. If you guys want it out of there, we can do that too. I am fine if you all agree to move them to the "Other Cameras" section. It just was not getting a lot of play and we felt it cleaned the site up to merge that one...
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    I agree with Jono that we should leave 4/3 as is. IMHO, 4/3 has its unique place here. Merging 4/3 with small sensor doesn't make sense. Of course, this is just MHO.

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    Okay, did my best to move larger sensors out to the "other" forum. Please understand that to Guy and I, anything with a sensor smaller than a Canon 1.6 crop sensor is a "Small Sensor" camera, so I am assuming that the 1/1.7" cams are still considered small even though they're larger than most small, but significantly smaller than 4/3; and equally assume the DP1 qualifies as "too big" for the small sensor area so it needed to go to "Other" too -- right???

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    Jack, I think that sounds good. If you're going to have forums based on format size, might as well keep it consistent. Per the upper part of the figure below, the blues go in Small Sensor, oranges in Other. When some yellows come along...



    Four Thirds forum, we hardly knew ye.

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Okay, did my best to move larger sensors out to the "other" forum. Please understand that to Guy and I, anything with a sensor smaller than a Canon 1.6 crop sensor is a "Small Sensor" camera, so I am assuming that the 1/1.7" cams are still considered small even though they're larger than most small, but significantly smaller than 4/3; and equally assume the DP1 qualifies as "too big" for the small sensor area so it needed to go to "Other" too -- right???

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    i think that it's a funny idea to split it on the Canon 1.6 crop. . . which is actually only a few mm larger than 4/3 vertically , when there is a great gap between 4/3 and the next smaller sensor (Canon 14.8mm, 4/3 13.5mm, 1.1/7 4.7mm) (see Amin's excellent diagram).

    Hi Amin
    Quite right - Blue in small sensor yellow and orange in 'other camera'

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    Also in my mind Four Thirds is related with the APS-C and Foveon X3 sensor formats and therefore belongs on the "Other Cameras" board along with DSLR 'alternatives' like Pentax, Samsung, Sigma, and Sony.

    (Btw. I wish there were a similar open standard mount like Four Thirds for 35mm. Sigh )

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    I was just wondering.......
    Why is digital Olympus sooooo Less Favored than say Nikon & Canon

    IMO Olympus is a GREAT innovative Company
    Anyone ?

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    Thanks Folks,

    Makes total sense to me too Anything Yellow or higher that doesn't fit into another dedicated forum will go into "other". At any time should something come along we feel needs a dedicated slot, we will add it. Guy and I will need your help in monitoring this, so be sure to let us know if something gets slotted in the wrong place. Thanks for your patience, and again sorry to have messed it up for you yesterday. And when a larger blue comes along, we'll pow-wow

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    Thanks Jack. That sounds great! Here's hoping for some larger blues and smaller yellows before the summer is through! Regards, Amin

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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    Sounds good to me folks. I am lost on all this sensor size stuff so just let me know if i happen to put something in the wrong spot.
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    Re: Hey! What's with fusing 4/3 with small sensor

    Splendid
    and Amin, I quite agree, let's have some larger blues and/or some smaller yellows. That gap is a strange thing. Your orange sensor looked like a grand idea for a compact camera - even a 2/3 sensor can come up with the goods (look at the lovely old E10 all those years ago).

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