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    Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    HI There
    I'm sure someone knows the best settings for jpgs.
    I've been using various settings but I've found greens (grass especially) to be rather smeary in the jpgs.
    I've turned off noise reduction - but I'm not sure which is the best jpg setting to use, and whether there is a way to stop this.

    Of course, I'll shoot RAW later (when it's supported by Aperture), but in the meantime I'd rather not resort to DNG conversion and Lightroom.

    Any ideas what the best settings would be?

    Thanks in advance

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    Unfortunately there is no way to turn off in camera noise reduction entirely and even at -2 it is objectionable and to my mind makes the JPG's unusable. I even suspect there is some in-camera NR in the RAF files.
    This applies to the newer sensor cameras (X100s, X=E2 and X-T1) My earlier cameras did not have it nearly as much.
    I am presently using Irridient Developer which does a truly excellent job, the latest Adobe Camera Raw from Adobe Labs which does a rather decent conversion and am awaiting the support in Capture One Pro which is my developer of choice.
    I have contacted Fuji home office requesting a firmware update allowing NR to be completely turned off.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    One thing you can try is by shooting a raw file then use the in camera raw converter to create a JPEG. This will allow you to try various settings to see what you like best. You can try different film types, sharpening, NR etc
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Okay, this is serious. Really nasty smudginess, but not just in JPG files, also in DNG files created from Adobe DNG converter and viewed in Lightroom. Grass is the worst culprit, but it also happens in hair - seems to be everywhere.

    Iridient is better, but there are still smudgy greens and strangely patterned road surfaces



    Any suggestions please?

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Different camera?

    This has been an ongoing concern with the X Trans color and RAW processing from the beginning...Sean Reid was one of the first to describe it...seemed to be improving and C1 may have a decent algorithm if they will update for the X-T1.

    There seems to be no small camera devoid of some compromise...your EM1 or your A7 may be best at the present time....but this sounds serious. I was unable to pick one of these up this week, will wait to see how this plays out.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    This has been an issue at least since the X-E1 with different Raw-converters.
    I normally use only C1, but to solve this problem I am now using Photoninja as an plug in Raw converter for Photoshop CC for my Raw files from the X-E1.
    For me, problem solved!
    Works really well.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono let me just say that my only experience is with the X-Pro 1 X Trans sensor, and I recall that until Aperture supported the raw format that the JPG OOC were better for detail in the grass and distant foliage than the Adobe raw was. Then I used AccuRaw by Sandy and that was able to get the best out of the raw files, though you still had to be careful to reach a balance between artefacts and detail. In the end I just stopped worrying about it and enjoyed the photos which print great and at look great at normal screen resolutions, i.e. not pixel peeping which makes you blind, the calendar I printed came out very well.

    I find generally now that Aperture supports the raw files for the XP1 that it works for me. In some special cases I may use Accuraw and I may try Iridient as it has had some good reviews.

    I am a bit worried that reports indicate that the XT1 may be worse than the earlier cameras in the smudging department, but perhaps it is too early to say until raw developers catch up.

    However if you end up finding the XT1 not to your tastes, I could give it a good home...
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Hi there David
    I'm not a serious pixel peeper myself, but these look awful, artifacts everywhere on Iridient and smudginess in LR. Comparing them to E-M1 files isn't funny.
    Maybe Aperture will do better....... But when? I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and have a try with Silkypix .
    I've emailed Fuji, I can't believe that this isn't going to be a really big deal, so maybe they'll sort it with a firmware update. I hope I can find a solution because I really love the camera!
    Thank you for the offer! I'll keep it in mind, but I'm not in a hurry. One thing is that I won't be buying any more lenses yet.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    With Iridient, try R-L Deconvolution sharpening, settings 0.35, 16.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    I believe the sensor in the X-T1 and X-E2 are the same. However you can run into smearing issues for sure.

    I always shoot raw +jpg fine. As already mentioned, you can't turn off the noise reduction as 0 is "standard". However I don't believe that the raws have noise reduction turned on.

    Here are some of the solutions I have found.

    LR 5.3 I don't believe supports the X-T1 file but I have not tried the latest ACR, as it might. It's downloadable from the Adobe main site. I know that Adobe added some new profiles for Fuji, hopefully they added support for the X-T1.

    In LR 5.3 with X-E2 files, I have found that the key is to minimize sharpening as LR can quickly create a plasticity look to the files and can cause problems in the greens, however all the other image tools in LR really are a plus so I tend to start there.

    Capture One 7.2 may now support the X-E2, but does not support the X-T1, and on X-E1 files it's OK, but I don't feel it gets the same level of detail out of the greens.

    Iridient, to me is a overall disappointment. Their toolset is very limited IMO. However they still have a very good raw conversion especially with the deconvolution sharpening. But they have native support for the X-T1.

    Photoninja, has support for for the X-T1 and can produce a pretty good result, however you do have to watch out in the conversion process as the files can easily take on a hardened look, as if too much clarity was applied.

    My workflow right now in the X-E2, ( I only shoot the jpg so you can get the greater amount of magnification on image preview in camera) is start in LR but just do a small amount of sharpening. I will then sharpen the image with Focus Magic or Topaz (both of which use deconvolution). This seems to help bring out the best in the files.

    With jpgs, you have to balance out the noise reduction with some in camera sharpening, I use the first level.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Okay, this is serious. Really nasty smudginess, but not just in JPG files, also in DNG files created from Adobe DNG converter and viewed in Lightroom. Grass is the worst culprit, but it also happens in hair - seems to be everywhere.

    Iridient is better, but there are still smudgy greens and strangely patterned road surfaces



    Any suggestions please?
    Jono, I have spent a lot of time on the X-Trans files, testing every SW I am aware of, but the problem associated to demosaicing this crazy color patterrn for me is still unresolved. It does not happen every time but when color smudging is present in a pic it is almost impossible for me to completely remove it, no matter which SW a I am using with any setting combination I am able to imagine. It does happen in the foliage but also in other circumstances, for instance when there is some sharp color transition (white letters on a dark background are usually heavily contaminated by the background color). Every known demosaicing algorithm dealing with this unconventional color pattern is quite prone to errors, the errors can be filtered off but filtering the errors the image is getting softer, and recovering the softness by sharpening is sometime even worst. Achieving the best compromise between minimizing the color artifacts and saving the details is quite challenging and the acceptability of the result is very persnal and image dependant. Since I guess you are an Aperture user, I suggest you to try AccuRaw for demosaicing only and export to Aperture with the sharpening zeroed. AccuRaw allows you to choose the amount of filtering you want by acting on three dedicated slides.In Aperture you can then season to taste , may be sharpening in the way suggested here: Processing Fuji X-Trans Files in Aperture | The Aperture Blog

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Gosh Jono, it does sound bad from what you describe, certainly I get nothing like that with the XP1. Perhaps a photo here to show what you mean would help.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Thomas Fitzgerald also has some excellent X-trans presets for LR 5, though X-T1 not supported yet. I also support the use of Photo Ninja. In my experience, the 'water colour' effect does seem to vary between images and for me seems to affect more distant detail in landscapes such as foliage, but not exclusively. Sometimes I seem to 'see it' more or less on different days for the same image, LOL. Too much pixel-peeping ...As David says, a picture would help and if you can post a RAW somewhere, happy to 'have a go'.

    P.S. There used to be some issue with some weird patterning with DNGs produced by Adobe so maybe this is an issue still.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
    With Iridient, try R-L Deconvolution sharpening, settings 0.35, 16.

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    Hi Lee
    Thank you

    That does help with the grass (still not great) but I'm getting lots of purple sparkles in highlight areas which LR seems to get rid of.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    This was the reason I gave up on the Fuji cameras earlier (had Xp-1 and X-E1). I was able to get usable images using AccuRaw later, but I didn't want to leave my LR workflow. So far I haven't run into this issue again with my X100S, but no opportunity yet to shoot green grass.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,

    here are four shot with green in it, all OOC JPEGs from the XE2, all imported in Aperture and exported for reducing size.

    I cannot see any artifacts, maybe you do? I can of course also send you the original JPEGs if you want to try.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Hi there
    Paul, Ario, Lee, David, Carl
    Thanks for chipping in, at least it seems I'm not mad! The grass around here is a particular vivid green at the moment, which is clearly exacerbating things.

    I must do some work now, but I'll post samples and perhaps a couple of RAF files later on.

    It sounds like Aperture might end up being the right solution..... When they decode to support the camera!

    Thanks again. More later

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Jono,

    here are four shot with green in it, all OOC JPEGs from the XE2, all imported in Aperture and exported for reducing size.

    I cannot see any artifacts, maybe you do? I can of course also send you the original JPEGs if you want to try.

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    How do you have the Jpg setting and film mode?
    I'd love to see them, could you zip em up and send them to me via wetransfer.com? (Jonathan at slack dot co dot uk)

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,

    files are on their way. I had no special JPEG settings, Film mode for the Jan. 2014 ones were if I remember right N-high and the one from Feb 2014 is S.

    Hope that helps

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    The watercoloring effect is a known problem of the X-trans sensor, not really making the Fujis ideal landscape cameras. The main reason I got rid of everything with this sensor. I recently reprocessed a few files with Photo Ninja and it does a much better job with the X-trans output than Aperture.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Hi there chaps

    Here is a link to two files in my Dropbox folder

    The grass in the first file seems impossible and the second file isn't much better
    What do you reckon?


    first file - RAF

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    second file - RAF

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono, this is indeed strange. I will shoot some around here today although there's not much grass at this time of year!

    You're using the kit lens, yes? I will try that as well as a Leica 50 lux asph and see if there's a difference.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono, I'm not sure, but that copy of the lens doesn't look very good, certainly comparing similar stuff at same FL and aperture with my XP1 with the same lens OOC JPG. It may be the different sensor, but I agree not good at all. Have you updated the firmware on the lens? - there was an update very recently. Tried OIS off etc? Thanks for the test files BTW.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,
    Indeed very bad - grass looks cooked or like baby food.
    I ran out and took some grass pictures but they are not quite so bad.
    Irridient is still the best in my opinion, but to me fairly acceptable in the prerelease ACR from Adobe Labs.
    I'll see if I can place it in my dropbox folder after I finish cooking.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,
    Here are two test shots. One with leica 50 lux asph, the other with 18-55 kit zoom set to 50.5mm. Both shot MF, ISO 200, f/5.6. RAW files converted to DNG with Adobe converter then imported to LR. No adjustments. Full frame then 100% crops. Kit lens first then 50 lux.

    I think they're both very good, Leica is sharper, but I don't see any of the strange green smearing you're getting.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    In the limited tests I have done after the release oc ACR 8.4 RC I do not see any difference compared to ACR 8.3 other than the addition of profiles which are supposed to emulate the Fuji jpeg rendering.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

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    Jono, I'm not sure, but that copy of the lens doesn't look very good, certainly comparing similar stuff at same FL and aperture with my XP1 with the same lens OOC JPG. It may be the different sensor, but I agree not good at all. Have you updated the firmware on the lens? - there was an update very recently. Tried OIS off etc? Thanks for the test files BTW.
    Hi there David
    I'm pretty sure I know what a bad lens looks like (and yes, I have updated the firmware). It may be it isn't brilliant, but that doesn't account for the weird patterns and the smearing.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,
    I've looked at the two JPEG's you provided and by accident discovered something on my Mac (which I believe you are using). Safari is potentially showing the JPEG's at slightly larger than actual size. When I take the pictures in to Preview and show them there at actual size, they are displayed slightly smaller than what Safari is showing them as. Not sure what is going on there. As a reference point, this was on a 13" Retina MBP. I will look at them on my 27" iMac later. The reason I bring this up, is that the grass picture looks decidedly worse in Safari than it does in Preview.

    Next, the picture with the tress and leaves looks like it is slightly out of focus everywhere, almost as if the IS was not working properly, or IS was being used on a tripod. The non green portions of the trunks were also blurred. I am wondering if the tendency to watercolor the greens is magnified by minute camera shake/blur? Just a hypothesis.

    I shot with the XE-2 over Christmas (same sensor), but with all manual lenses on a speedbooster adapter. I am going back through those to see what I can see (granted, I was NOT shooting grass on purpose :-)).

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    The weird pattern you are seeing Jono, is like some have mentioned to do with the X-trans sensor (watercolor effect) and the way raw processors process a 'more' regular bayer cmos sensor with no problem. Sean Reid and DL have both mentioned it, and I have made myself stay away from the Fuji cameras for this being one of the main reasons. At the same time, I know the camera and lenses are great, but I cannot have it affect my images, it will drive me insane!

    I have the A7 and was torn with the release the of the XT-1, you have now confirmed my suspicions the problems are still here! I guess I will be keeping my initial purchase!
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    I would agree that the 2nd shot looks out of focus. The first one I'm not sure but will download the raw files when I'm at home. What lens are these shot with? I shoot with both the EM1 and Fuji systems and generally I like the Fuji images better. The only Fuji zoom I use is the 18-55 and it is pretty good, on par with the oly 12-40. Most of the Fuji primes are really excellent.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,

    I converted both RAFs in PS CC newest ARC and dropped them to you in a PM....

    They both are very soft even with medium sharpening...mainly in the mid-field distances...not what I would expect near apertures of F 7-8....

    The patterns you mention may still be there in these TIFs... thought you could look at them more easily this way.


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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    HI Everyone
    Many thanks for all the input - I think it's something worth bottoming out. I have to say I'm wondering about the OIS on the lens - (it was switched on), and I agree the second shot looks out of focus . . . but not everywhere- so I don't think it's just that.

    What is really interesting and odd, is that I was looking at the files on a thunderbolt monitor, and this evening I've been looking at them on a 15 retina MBP, and they look a whole lot better (strange or what?) Some actually look really good. I'll be interested to hear what Fuji say (I've sent the files to them too).

    incidentally Po-Ming Chu and Tim - I have the A7, and also the E-M1, I'm trying to make a decision as to which way to go - not easy!

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono, all,

    I have both the Fuji XE2 with 18-55 and the Oly EM1 with 12-40 but I generally like the images from the Fuji better than from the Oly. This includes OOC JPEGs.

    I am watching on a 15" MBP with normal display and a Eizo 24" full HD Pro display and on both I prefer the Fuji.

    Not sure what (if) I am doing wrong.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Jono, all,

    I have both the Fuji XE2 with 18-55 and the Oly EM1 with 12-40 but I generally like the images from the Fuji better than from the Oly. This includes OOC JPEGs.

    I am watching on a 15" MBP with normal display and a Eizo 24" full HD Pro display and on both I prefer the Fuji.

    Not sure what (if) I am doing wrong.

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    I still think your grass looks odd though - but things are definitely less bad on the 15"MBP

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono, the first shot of the tree at 18mm when converted with AccuRaw and brought into Aperture as a TIFF and then sharpened etc looks pretty good. This is on a 15" Retina MBP.

    Toggling Aperture to zoom in at what it calls 100%. What I do notice is there is quite a lot of distortion control in the JPG at 18mm, the raw via AccuRaw is not corrected for distortion and the horizon curves upwards at the edges as a result, so part of the smearing in the JPG may be the distortion correction stretching the corners. The raw does show more detail in the grass, and the very distant tree branches on the horizon. My impression is that the LHS of the image may be slightly more blurred on the horizon than the RHS, but this could also be due to the nature of the subject and the rendering from raw, but at normal viewing resolutions is acceptable to my eyes.

    My initial thought about it looking terribly bad compared to what I am accustomed to seeing was because I was viewing it in preview and on the retina display and that gives a different magnification at 100% to what I normally see within Aperture.

    I gave up on the other picture as I couldn't tell what was in focus, which made me think OIS problem initially.

    I would still try another lens, even if you could borrow a Fuji prime from someone.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,

    while you are communicating with Fuji, could you please also mention that they should get Aperture support faster than in the past? The XE2 is now out for 6 months and still no support. Especially in the light of weird JPEG artifact that becomes even more a problem.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    Jono, the first shot of the tree at 18mm when converted with AccuRaw and brought into Aperture as a TIFF and then sharpened etc looks pretty good. This is on a 15" Retina MBP.

    Toggling Aperture to zoom in at what it calls 100%. What I do notice is there is quite a lot of distortion control in the JPG at 18mm, the raw via AccuRaw is not corrected for distortion and the horizon curves upwards at the edges as a result, so part of the smearing in the JPG may be the distortion correction stretching the corners. The raw does show more detail in the grass, and the very distant tree branches on the horizon. My impression is that the LHS of the image may be slightly more blurred on the horizon than the RHS, but this could also be due to the nature of the subject and the rendering from raw, but at normal viewing resolutions is acceptable to my eyes.

    My initial thought about it looking terribly bad compared to what I am accustomed to seeing was because I was viewing it in preview and on the retina display and that gives a different magnification at 100% to what I normally see within Aperture.

    I gave up on the other picture as I couldn't tell what was in focus, which made me think OIS problem initially.

    I would still try another lens, even if you could borrow a Fuji prime from someone.

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    I don't think it's just the lens (it may be partly the lens). But I'll try a bit harder tomorrow with OIS turned off - it might be a contributor at least.

    It would be really nice to get to the bottom of this - perhaps it's a hardware issue? we'll see.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Fine Jono, hope you get to the bottom of it, because I get the impression you like the camera design and function otherwise.

    Peter, I agree Apple need to get a move on with supporting this camera, not sure that Fuji have much input to that. Given the popularity of the XT1 we can only hope that this will push Apple on a little faster.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    This is an XP1 raw example (100% crop) from an XP1 with LR processing two years ago. No that bad now with LR improvements, but will give you an idea of how bad it used to be.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    This is an XP1 raw example (100% crop) from an XP1 with LR processing two years ago. No that bad now with LR improvements, but will give you an idea of how bad it used to be.
    But this is what I'm seeing Carl - not that bad perhaps, but it's the same thing. Horrid - and in my mind it makes it unusable.

    I find it incomprehensible that everyone seems to think the files are so great. Personally, I'm not sure where to go next!

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Hello Jono,
    I have not recieved my x-t1 yet but i do use the x-e2
    Personally the only raw processors I have been happy with for green foliage are;
    Capture one 7; my primary and good for 90% of images.
    Photo Ninja; my goto if Capture one can not quite get there.
    I have not had an image that could not hold detail n greens.
    I reguarily print on exebision fibre at 24 inches short side with no issues.
    I primarily use; 18-55 55-200 and my adapted Olympus om 35 shift MC.
    I downloaded your raw files and did a quick try through Photo Ninja.
    The first file seemed to react really well. just a small adjustment in the detail slider and the grass popped very well.
    The second appears to be soft.
    Photo Ninja beta is a free download for cross platforms.
    I only shoot Jpg for event portraits, so it dificult for me to comment on yours other than; the fine setting jpg with the "s" film setting works wonderfully.
    Things to try;
    change jpg in camera color to a different emulation.
    found the emulators to change items significantly.
    I run my jpgs with everthing off (orj as close as it gets) no sharpen, nr, ect.
    I am on the road, but can look more in depth later.
    Wish I could try it in Capture one, but no support yet.
    Hope my own x-t1 shows soon.
    If you wish, I can send you back your raws with my prossesing to view on your computer later. Perhaps I can find the time for a quick proof print to see if part of the problem is how the monitors are handling the translation of the images.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    But this is what I'm seeing Carl - not that bad perhaps, but it's the same thing. Horrid - and in my mind it makes it unusable.

    I find it incomprehensible that everyone seems to think the files are so great. Personally, I'm not sure where to go next!
    I hope that Apple support for the Fuji Xti comes soon in Aperture and the demosaicing works well for you in that environment. Otherwise, you will have to use other 3rd party solutions for raw processing that yield decent transformations. So far I'm quite pleased with the X100S raws processed through ACR with the provided profiles (both camera and lens). I will stick with Sony for my main system and use the X100S as my travel camera.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Jono,

    The image with the single tree looks fine to me. The grass comes out very sharp in the foreground. As do the trees in the distance. I so far have only used photo ninja on it. I will pull it up in LR 5.3 later today. I will say if you are using an older version of LR other than 5.3, the greens will suffer for sure.

    I posted a crop from the bottom left. I am seeing individual blades of grass with no problem.

    The 2nd image is just a bit out of focus and looks like an OIS issue for sure, in that it might not have kicked in fully. I find that the OIS tends to cause me issues quite a bit and most times leave it off especially on the 18-55.


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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    I won't be able to use LR, I forgot it wont' open the X-T1 yet. I have not updated ACR for CS6, but it does now support the files, and I will take a look at it a bit later.

    I hate it when the cameras get ahead of the software as it will quite a while before Capture One updates again and adds the X-T1 also.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    hello again Jono,

    I had a little time to play with your first raw and jpg.
    the jpg has a large amount of barrel distortion correction on it.
    When I take the raw file in photo ninja and adjust it to the same distortion correction; it seems to do a better job of it, but it still just starts to smear similar to what is in your jpg. I will look later to see if the amount of lens correction in the camera is adjustable to allow for less automatic correction.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    On the x-e2 menu layer 3 turn lens modulation off and try the JPG again.
    I would try it myself on my e2 but I can only shoot cedar trees; the grass is kinda covered in snow.

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    I've seldom converted a Fuji file worth keeping out of ACR/Lightroom. I don't have the types of issues listed here with C1 Pro & X files to date. I haven't tried X-T1 files in C1 yet but I would expect the only difference between it and X-E2 files to be the metadata in the header.

    Not all raw converters are created equal. The image SCHO posted is probably one of the worst cases of Adobe garbling the greens I've seen. Even adobe's converter isn't that bad any more. The biggest issue I've had with ACR has been sensational reds - ie lacking subtle colour.
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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    Hello Graham,
    now if only Phase would let Capture one open the x-t1 files.
    As it is the same sensor as the x-e2; I have no idea why it currently doesn't.

    Come on Phase!

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    Re: Fuji X-T1 - Greens and jpg files - help please?

    I'm sure it's just the EXIF header info. They'll add the X-T1 soon enough I'm sure. As an alternative you could try one of the EXIF header modification apps and relabel the X-T1 files with an X-E2 header. That's what the Canon and Nikon folks often do until the converters catch up.
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