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05/08/25 New Features for C1

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Paul2660

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Well, I had hoped to see something new for landscape shooter, but all the new announcements today were for studio work. The new retouch tool.
No mention of anything closely related to better masking tools, like sky select. The folks in the video were mainly focused on tethering and the like, again something that really does not fit very often in the field.
Based on this video and the key note address, it seems that the developers at C1 are mainly interested in the studio environment for future features. Not a good fit for me, but if you are a portrait shooter, make sure to look up the new retouch tool.

Also once again the point was made over and over that Capture One is a totally independent company for the last 5 years. OK, if you are independent support Hasselblad. One of the most aspects for any company is increase revenue share. Adding Hasselblad support would be a huge addition I believe as Hasselblad keeps stepping on themselves with Phocus desktop. Capture One developers constantly make a point of stating that understanding color science is one of their key strongpoints, if so figuring out how to support HNCS should not be that hard.

Paul
 
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Paul Spinnler

Well-known member
It is not hard - HNCS is just a fancy interpolated LUT set (depending on kelvin) that's applied to the image - they don't want to share it
 
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Alan

Active member
Meh.
Still on 16.2.5, won't be upgrading until Hasselblad is supported.
AI, style copying, half-assed pano & HDR, wedding/portrait features are useless to me.
 
tenmangu81

tenmangu81

Well-known member
I guess C1 is probably not the only culprit for not developing support for HB files. HB is likely the other, for not wanting to share its color science.
 
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davidrm

Member
tenmangu81 said:
I guess C1 is probably not the only culprit for not developing support for HB files. HB is likely the other, for not wanting to share its color science.
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But they do share it with Adobe. I have it directly from a very good authority that HB actively collaborated with Adobe to build the dedicated camera standard profiles. Maybe they just don’t trust C1.
 
MGrayson

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
It's not sharing. It's licensing. Deals get made unless one or both parties are dead set against them. C1 has a capricious history of abandoning support and Hasselblad tried to lock out Phase One backs from their H series bodies. There's probably bad blood on both sides.

But it's just money. Remember when C1 was NEVER going to work with Fuji (or any other manufacturer's) MF files? Something changed their mind.
 
alatreille

alatreille

Member
I've often found that I'm unamazed at an announcement, then get into the tools that are specific for something else (say skin tone tool) and find an applicable use in my own workflow.
Skin tone tool has been useful for smoothing out imperfections in dry wall for instance.

I would love to see Hasselblad supported, because then I'd be able to post produce my Mavic 3 Pro (has a hassy camera) files in C1. There is no C1 lens profile for it, so we have to do them in LR or camera raw
 
MGrayson

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
C1's skin tone tool are the only thing I really miss about the software. It's been a long time since I used it seriously, so some of these may have improved, but C1's DAM (They're kidding, right?), Printing (See DAM), Pricing (Yes, we promised you an upgrade path - we call it "Pay full price for a new license!"), and Hassy support (*crickets*) are too much for its charms to overcome.

(To be clear, Adobe is very far from perfect, but for me there's no comparison.)
 
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algrove

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It's a pain, but I go the Phocus for almost nothing and then export a TIFF so I can import those into C1.
 
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Precision

New member
John Black said:
Could just be bad blood. This post from Capture One's CEO makes it sounds like it's a "no us, it's them situation." Of course, it's his post so...

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I don’t get a “It’s not us, it’s them” from that really…

Maybe Hasselblad doesn’t want to play, sure….I actually think it’s understandable. Even if properly licensed by Hasselblad nothing would stop a C1 user with a competitors camera with the same ubiquitous Sony sensor from applying a Hasselblad color profile, just as I use the Leaf Credo profile for my IQ1 for the superior skin tone. So it’s not just a worry that the tech makes its way into the fabled IQ5…it could be perceived loss of the greatest differentiation of Hasselblad in 2025- the color quality.

And even if “A different company” on paper, C1 and Phase One headquarters are still in the same building, and Phase One is DJIs biggest competitor in the high end Drone space.

Hasselblad support in C1 would sell a lot more C1 licenses than it would sell Hasselblads.

And….Phocus is not completely terrible. It’s worth every penny I paid for it.
 
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gazwas

Active member
I love Capture One, have used it daily in various guises since 1999 and really don't think there is a comparable piece of software that comes close if you shoot tethered.

I do however feel annoyed, frustrated and let down by the people who now run it.
  • Constant UI and basic function tweaks (always for the worst).
  • Features added and then left to fester without further improvements.
  • Minimal updates other than bug fixes and camera support.
  • Slow dilution of the flagship PRO version to introduce more costly "UPGRADES".
At its core C1 is the best of the best.

The developers don't need to beat Adobe as their levels of funding is unachievable. Ban the introduction of any new features or style packs for 18 months and plough everything on improving AI masking, HDR and Pano stitching, noise reduction, HDR tools, sharpening and colour editing. Forget all this BS social media friendly hype and listen to end users about what they want to see and spend money improving upon its once unrivalled feature set and people will come flooding back.
 
tenmangu81

tenmangu81

Well-known member
For shooting tethered with a Hasselblad, Phocus is fantastic. For other purposes, Lightroom is better. I've used Capture One for years, and Lightroom gets its pace and is at a very high level now, with constant improvements, while Capture One......
 
MGrayson

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
tenmangu81 said:
For shooting tethered with a Hasselblad, Phocus is fantastic. For other purposes, Lightroom is better. I've used Capture One for years, and Lightroom gets its pace and is at a very high level now, with constant improvements, while Capture One......
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As long as you’re using a Mac. Hasselblad actually did lose a customer (not me) due to no C1 support and no Windows Phocus tethering. He’s now a slightly disappointed, but successful, owner of a Fuji GFX100 II.
 
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algrove

Well-known member
I have about stopped using Fuji since there RAW files are not DNG or at least it was not possible to capture in DNG and then to have a lasting RAW (DNG) I used Iridient to convert the GFX files to DNG.
So with my Hasselblad FFF files I mainly just change the EV level to my satisfaction and export tiffs back to my RAID drive which I then import into C1 for the remainder of PP.

Any better solutions?
 
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