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mjr
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I admit to finding this thread way beyond me, I don't understand it!
My idea of a RAW converter is pretty simple, it has to take the image I captured and allow me unhindered ability to create the final image, nothing more, nothing less. What I want that image to be depends on a myriad of factors, personal, business, creative, the mood I'm in, the list is pretty long. That being said, how the image looks when I open it is far less important to me than how the image looks when I am finished and ready for print or delivery to the client. As the way an image looks on opening is infinitely adjustable, what comes standard from C1 means nothing to me personally, it's just a starting point. For some images it could of course be perfect, for others, miles off, the point for me is that when I want to make minor or major alterations, the software should allow me to do that.
For me, C1 has far more options for alterations, colour editor, RGB curves, layers, masks from colour selections etc. etc. happen to work well for me, that doesn't make it better than LR, it just makes it better for me. If opening an image in LR you get exactly what you want then that's right for you. In C1 if the image is too contrasty I can do global, local and individual colour changes, same for saturation and all other parameters, I personally find the sharpening excellent and as I am experimenting more with grain on images, the C1 grain options are miles ahead of LR which are all reasons why C1 works for me.
As with all software, it takes getting used to, but I don't think it's possible to judge it's performance if you don't know how to use it properly, also even if you judge it as being poor for you, doesn't mean it is for anyone else. After reading Anders comment "As I've said before it's more difficult to get highly saturated colors right from a technical aspect, but still purple should not become blue, that must be some odd design choice by Phase One in this case. I really wonder what they have been thinking. In many genres you rarely come across colors as saturated as this though, so I guess that's why Phase One has gotten away with it." I shot a purple flower outside and opened it in C1 and LR and the flower is purple, or at least as purple as the original is, but more important than that, if I want it to be bluer or redder, then that is my choice in the colour editor, I can leave it as shot or use my own creativity to make it what I want, there isn't that level of control in LR.
Anyway, these are personal opinions, we are able to chose everything from subject to lens to camera to software to print or web, as long as those things work for the individual then that's all that matters isn't it?
Mat
My idea of a RAW converter is pretty simple, it has to take the image I captured and allow me unhindered ability to create the final image, nothing more, nothing less. What I want that image to be depends on a myriad of factors, personal, business, creative, the mood I'm in, the list is pretty long. That being said, how the image looks when I open it is far less important to me than how the image looks when I am finished and ready for print or delivery to the client. As the way an image looks on opening is infinitely adjustable, what comes standard from C1 means nothing to me personally, it's just a starting point. For some images it could of course be perfect, for others, miles off, the point for me is that when I want to make minor or major alterations, the software should allow me to do that.
For me, C1 has far more options for alterations, colour editor, RGB curves, layers, masks from colour selections etc. etc. happen to work well for me, that doesn't make it better than LR, it just makes it better for me. If opening an image in LR you get exactly what you want then that's right for you. In C1 if the image is too contrasty I can do global, local and individual colour changes, same for saturation and all other parameters, I personally find the sharpening excellent and as I am experimenting more with grain on images, the C1 grain options are miles ahead of LR which are all reasons why C1 works for me.
As with all software, it takes getting used to, but I don't think it's possible to judge it's performance if you don't know how to use it properly, also even if you judge it as being poor for you, doesn't mean it is for anyone else. After reading Anders comment "As I've said before it's more difficult to get highly saturated colors right from a technical aspect, but still purple should not become blue, that must be some odd design choice by Phase One in this case. I really wonder what they have been thinking. In many genres you rarely come across colors as saturated as this though, so I guess that's why Phase One has gotten away with it." I shot a purple flower outside and opened it in C1 and LR and the flower is purple, or at least as purple as the original is, but more important than that, if I want it to be bluer or redder, then that is my choice in the colour editor, I can leave it as shot or use my own creativity to make it what I want, there isn't that level of control in LR.
Anyway, these are personal opinions, we are able to chose everything from subject to lens to camera to software to print or web, as long as those things work for the individual then that's all that matters isn't it?
Mat