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CFV 100C?
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Paul Spinnler
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Good to see some real competition for P1!
FloatingLens
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Awesome, and the picture (if the real deal) hints the new CVF will have built-in storage?
Thanks for your effort George, I really do appreciate that!Of course it is going to come out, I just got the GFX 100 II. You can thank me later
Doppler9000
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Could you please buy a Sony A1?Of course it is going to come out, I just got the GFX 100 II. You can thank me later
Paul Spinnler
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DJI is bringing out some very interesting feature-laden products out lately, the Osmo 3 (which is really nifty), the new small drones (auto track, object avoidance for less than 1k), etc - now they figured out the digital back side ... if they'd just move into the 54x40mm territory ... and break some price barriers. P1 at this stage is solely surviving on the fact of being the only company with the largest sensor, that's it.
Very unlikely of course, especially since they officially axed the H system just a few months ago.
Paul Spinnler
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Why not? You can attach the new back to a V camera whose lenses cover full frame. It'll be just more expensive to produce and if mounted on a modern Hassy camera they can crop it or give it a bit more than the standard crop as most lenses cover way more than the base specs.
Good question. For example, the PhaseOne IQ3 80MP [54x40mm] was available in Hasselblad V mount but later DB weren't.
Paul Spinnler
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That was a political decision - P1 stopped all third party mounts a few years ago to support the XF platform. They also stopped H backs for that reason. In any case. If they stay below 10k this back will fly.
This new back might be a case for a return to copal and aperture unit lenses mounted on system-agnostic tech cams like Alpa and Arca which can mount P1 and / or Hassy backs. If this thing brings along internal storage ...
This new back might be a case for a return to copal and aperture unit lenses mounted on system-agnostic tech cams like Alpa and Arca which can mount P1 and / or Hassy backs. If this thing brings along internal storage ...
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It does, like the X2D.
Paul Spinnler
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That's a good thing, especially for V setups.
I think a lot of peeps are now holding their tech cam earmarked cash ready for this one ... makes X shutter lenses less attractive given their locked system status and lack of novelties and comms from P1.
Hassy can only do copal and or aperture unit.
I think a lot of peeps are now holding their tech cam earmarked cash ready for this one ... makes X shutter lenses less attractive given their locked system status and lack of novelties and comms from P1.
Hassy can only do copal and or aperture unit.
My source in the know said probably a tat below the X2D.
Yes, there might be a demand. My gear dealer already has a waiting list (I am third on that list)
Unless one needs flash or wants some of the movement info baked into metadata, im not sure Hassy users will really be missing out on anything if limited to copal or AU.
For my uses X-shutter didn’t really add anything except a huge price tag for features I could along perfectly fine without it when I was shooting Alpa.
TechTalk
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With regard to larger sensors, Hasselblad has already been there and done that. The same is true of DSLR cameras. I wish Phase One future success for the XF medium format DSLR system and and IQ4 larger sensor digital backs, but a major reason they are the last manufacturer in those two categories is because consumer demand went elsewhere; to smaller, lighter, less expensive mirrorless systems. Hasselblad and Fuji recognized this shift and they both acted on it in 2016. They've both been building out their respective mirrorless systems in different ways ever since with each of them doing so successfully. Phase One has been investing in other areas to secure their future.
For those wanting mirrorless medium format, there are enough differences in their product offerings and design concepts that the Fuji GFX and Hasselblad X systems have each been successful in their own right. They've differentiated each of their systems enough that you will find some individuals simultaneously owning and using both GFX and X systems because they appreciate the advantages and capabilities each system offers them because of their differences. They've each attracted their own customer base and found their own space in the market where they can grow. I think we all benefit from differences in products and from the differences in the people who use them.
I expect Hasselblad's focus will continue to be on expanding their X System range of camera, lens, and accessory options — but the unexpected happens from time to time. The X System launch was unexpected, at least by me, in 2016. The introduction of a unique modular mirrorless design concept, with the 907X 50C in 2019, surprised me as well. I think Hasselblad has been successful in creating a unique system with connections, in both design and function, to their previous generations of camera systems; while at the same time not being limited or prevented by their past from offering new technology with new form factors. At least, that's how I see the X System evolution to date.
I have no idea what the future holds and we will likely see surprises from multiple manufacturers. I would personally like to see Hasselblad take the modularity of their current 907X 50C even further, including a new CFV 100C. Modular system design has been a key concept for Hasselblad from the start of their V System decades ago. They've also been very good at creating points of interconnection between each new system and the generations which came before it. Creating additional modular options, like the 907X + CFV combination, would be true to Hasselblad's long heritage and increase their differentiation from other products.
I could envision a variety of potential future products. I'd love to see something along the lines of the V1D, the modular square format concept camera displayed at Photokina 2016 for which they secured a 2018 design patent. There are any number of possibilities for repurposing the basic design concept of the ArcBody again, which supplied the basis for the HTS 1,5 tilt-shift adapter in the H system — both of which can be used with CFV backs. A new version for the X System could open up interesting possibilities including lenses designed for movements (like the ArcBody) or adapters for existing lenses like the HTS. I can imagine, but who knows? There may be better things ahead which I haven't imagined!
For those wanting mirrorless medium format, there are enough differences in their product offerings and design concepts that the Fuji GFX and Hasselblad X systems have each been successful in their own right. They've differentiated each of their systems enough that you will find some individuals simultaneously owning and using both GFX and X systems because they appreciate the advantages and capabilities each system offers them because of their differences. They've each attracted their own customer base and found their own space in the market where they can grow. I think we all benefit from differences in products and from the differences in the people who use them.
I expect Hasselblad's focus will continue to be on expanding their X System range of camera, lens, and accessory options — but the unexpected happens from time to time. The X System launch was unexpected, at least by me, in 2016. The introduction of a unique modular mirrorless design concept, with the 907X 50C in 2019, surprised me as well. I think Hasselblad has been successful in creating a unique system with connections, in both design and function, to their previous generations of camera systems; while at the same time not being limited or prevented by their past from offering new technology with new form factors. At least, that's how I see the X System evolution to date.
I have no idea what the future holds and we will likely see surprises from multiple manufacturers. I would personally like to see Hasselblad take the modularity of their current 907X 50C even further, including a new CFV 100C. Modular system design has been a key concept for Hasselblad from the start of their V System decades ago. They've also been very good at creating points of interconnection between each new system and the generations which came before it. Creating additional modular options, like the 907X + CFV combination, would be true to Hasselblad's long heritage and increase their differentiation from other products.
I could envision a variety of potential future products. I'd love to see something along the lines of the V1D, the modular square format concept camera displayed at Photokina 2016 for which they secured a 2018 design patent. There are any number of possibilities for repurposing the basic design concept of the ArcBody again, which supplied the basis for the HTS 1,5 tilt-shift adapter in the H system — both of which can be used with CFV backs. A new version for the X System could open up interesting possibilities including lenses designed for movements (like the ArcBody) or adapters for existing lenses like the HTS. I can imagine, but who knows? There may be better things ahead which I haven't imagined!
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