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Hasselblad XCD 28P
- Thread starter alextsayun
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Here's a test I did this morning shooting a white card at F4 with my 29P on X1Dll body. Processed in Phocus 2. I was quite surprised how good the results are.
MGrayson
Subscriber and Workshop Member
My examples above with the X1D were just using "Lens Corrections" for the 28P. If I use "Scene Calibration" and shoot a white plexiglass test image, it removes all color and vignetting effects. Of course, that's not ideal, although one could keep a bunch around, one for each f-stop.
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wattsy
Well-known member
It seems that deliveries of this lens are taking place again (just had notification from my dealer in London that he has a 28P available). @dmecham 's corrections tests are quite timely because I had my doubts about this lens on the 50MP sensor but am now reassured that it should be fine on my CFV 50 II if I run it via the lens corrections in the latest Phocus.
I should mention my camera is the X1Dii model.
wattsy
Well-known member
Yes, but it is the same generation as the 907x CFV 50 II and should have equivalent files.
wattsy
Well-known member
I've just received this lens. First impressions are very positive. I actually thought it might be broken when I tried to autofocus it because I didn't think anything was happening. The AF, it seems, is silent and pretty much instant
. I don't routinely use AF but when I do I am used to my 45P making a whirring sound and 'thinking' for a second or so before latching on to focus. I look forward to trying the lens out properly this weekend.
. I don't routinely use AF but when I do I am used to my 45P making a whirring sound and 'thinking' for a second or so before latching on to focus. I look forward to trying the lens out properly this weekend.Well not all that long ago, the Hasselblad X System was based around a panoramic 35mm film camera, and the Hasselblad X1 was a film scanner…Hmm. The 907x/CFV has always been listed along with the traditional 500/etc V system. This has always made sense to me since it constitutes another compatible component of the original 6x6 SLR line, providing a digital back for use on all of the older 500/etc bodies as well as a body stub/lens mount to give access to the X series lens line. Where things have gotten a bit confusing, to me, is the adoption of the new "V" lens descriptor within the X series lens offerings. Sheesh, couldn't they have use another letter rather than "V"? They already use "P" on a couple of XCD lenses, supposedly indicating a sub-series of XCD types, why not use something other than V to indicate another sub-series?
But eh? I'm a photographer, not a marketing weenie... I suppose they had their reasons, and it's not *that* complicated to figure out.
G
Maybe there are only 4 or 5 letters in the Swedish alphabet
Could I ask you a question, in the daily shooting X1D 50 II and 28 p, do you notice the magenta/purple color cast in jpg file, and how do you think about this combo, is it good, I am using x1D II and think about buying this lens ! Many thank !
I've read this whole thread about 28mm. I've looked through your very useful tests (thanks for your time!!). I'm facing a dilemma myself, whether to buy a used xcd 30 or a new 28P for landscapes. However, after watching this particular test, I wonder why we're still discussing the quality of 28mm? Something like color cast in this range shouldn't even be present in lenses of this class, from this manufacturer. I don't know how anyone can even consider buying this lens for landscape photography if it gives a color cast on 1/3 of the frame?Having an X1D (Mark I), an X2D, an XCD 28P, and a white piece of plexiglass, I thought ...
Everything f/4.8, ISO 100, about 1/3 sec.
First, OOC with no corrections except white balance in the center and EV to match all the images. Processed in LR.
X1D
X2D
Now XCD 28P corrections as applied in LR
X1D
X2D
And finally, corrections applied in Phocus, exported as 16 bit TIFF
X1D
X2D
Interesting how much better Phocus corrects the X2D. It's almost perfect except for the deep corners. I could do a whole aperture series, but I was curious how bad the X1D corrections were.
Matt
For me, this thread has clearly shown that 28P is dedicated exactly to the style of photography defined by the manufacturer: street and "occasional" photography. And nothing more. Certainly not for landscape photography. Fighting with color cast in Photoshop is completely pointless. Especially since used copies of XCD 30 can be bought for similar money to a new 28P.I would like to thank once again everyone who participated in this thread and on the forum - thanks to you I have a chance to make a better decision.
For me, my taste, with this brand, with this price, this color cast absolutely disqualifies this lens from many types of photography. But of course everyone can make their own decision.
Photon42
Well-known member
I have received my 28 finally in May 2024. The 30 is nice lens (I had one), but this one for me is more useful as it focusses closer and is much lighter and more compact. On top of that the shutter goes to 1/4000 (= 11 ...). As someone who bought an M8 long back in 2007 or so, I am probably a little exercised in color casts. My post processing starts with Phocus and I am happy with the results. You will also find that a number of other lens imperfections are limited by lens profiles in post processing software. As long as Hasselblad has a solution for that, I am fine.
Like my tests having owned both the 28 and the 30 there is no color cast with the 28 using Phocus 2 and the image quality from extensive testing showed the 28 was at least as high of IQ as the 30. I kept the 28 and sold the 30. But of course others may have their opinions as well and the 30 is an excellent lens.I've read this whole thread about 28mm. I've looked through your very useful tests (thanks for your time!!). I'm facing a dilemma myself, whether to buy a used xcd 30 or a new 28P for landscapes. However, after watching this particular test, I wonder why we're still discussing the quality of 28mm? Something like color cast in this range shouldn't even be present in lenses of this class, from this manufacturer. I don't know how anyone can even consider buying this lens for landscape photography if it gives a color cast on 1/3 of the frame?
I would like to thank once again everyone who participated in this thread and on the forum - thanks to you I have a chance to make a better decision.
I am a Canon user, and I recently purchased the X1D II. After thoroughly reading about the 28mm f/4 and the 30mm f/3.5, I decided to buy a used 28mm f/4, which will arrive soon. The reason for this choice is that I didn't notice a significant difference in image quality between the two lenses (the main issue being color cast). The 28mm f/4 is definitely lighter and smaller, making it perfect for long walks and handheld use and I plan to upgrade to the used X2D in the future, but not just yet.
wattsy
Well-known member
I had the same impression before I decided to give the lens a go. I use it only for landscape photography and I have not had a problem with a colour cast using my 907x and CFV II 50c back. It's an excellent lens IMO and the small size and light weight are an added bonus. I also appreciate how the lens handles flare as I often photograph towards the sun.
jjosephlatshaw
New member
I received mine about a month ago from B&H. I ordered it back in December and frankly was surprised to get an alert that I needed to sign for a package, because I’d forgotten all about it.
I need to do some testing on images loaded into Lightroom vs Phocus, but as long as Phocus corrects for color cast, I’m really not worried about it. Being able to use software to correct for some variables allows lens designers to allow those variables to float in exchange for correcting other variables. It’s not like you can use these lenses for film anyway.
I need to do some testing on images loaded into Lightroom vs Phocus, but as long as Phocus corrects for color cast, I’m really not worried about it. Being able to use software to correct for some variables allows lens designers to allow those variables to float in exchange for correcting other variables. It’s not like you can use these lenses for film anyway.