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New Hasselblad XCD 20-35/3.2-4.5

Ai_Print

Active member
This is a thread about the newly-released 20-35 zoom.
Then why did you did you take it off topic saying this and not expect me to educate you?

"If you’re printing 36 feet wide, then an off-center lens isn’t going to make much of a difference anyway, is it?"
 

TechTalk

Well-known member
Calm down, kids. I am not particularly emotionally intelligent, so I never pick up on any backstories or hidden messages in comments. I just read them at face value. I can understand the exasperation of the endless pursuit of perfection, as I shoot with that goal. Let’s all try to not read that much into it.
You're absolutely correct that the pursuit of perfection is endless since it can never be reached. As you and others said, it can also be a source of exasperation or disappointment when trying to push the envelope of what's possible or practical. Nonetheless, those with a need will still pursue it for their individual purpose.

When I became involved with art reproduction, the purpose of pursuing perfection was to satisfy a client — within the limits of time and budget. When I was involved in photojournalism, the purpose was to capture a compelling image at a specific moment in time and any inclination toward perfection often had to take a back seat.

Okay, Dad.

It seems you are confusing a pointless pursuit of perfection with the legitimate desire to get products that are within a useful specification, and not defective.
No one said or implied the pursuit of perfection was pointless. The word used was endless, which is very different — and true.
 

Ai_Print

Active member
At some point you just have to move on and start making pictures…
There is a difference between seeking perfection, seeking tools that do what you need them to do and ones that fall short. Lenses like the XCD 65mm 2.8 and 100mm 3.5 CFi do exactly what I need them to do, every single time.
 
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MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
"Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" - George Carlin
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" - Ralph Waldo Emerson [emphasis mine]
"Technique is the least important thing, but without it we are lost." - Nadia Boulanger

Did someone release a zoom lens?
 

Doppler9000

Active member
No one implied the pursuit of perfection was pointless. The word used was endless, which is very different — and true.
Some might believe that pursuing a goal that is impossible to reach is pointless.

Perhaps you are conflating the pursuit of perfection with the pursuit of the better.

“Perfect” and “better” are not equivalent.
 

TechTalk

Well-known member
Some might believe that pursuing a goal that is impossible to reach is pointless.

Perhaps you are conflating the pursuit of perfection with the pursuit of the better.

“Perfect” and “better” are not equivalent.
Pointless and endless would be pursuing another semantic tangent because it won't get any better. I'll take the off-ramp here.
 
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MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
I'm trying - unsuccessfully, obviously - to stay off this merry-go-round. I think one of the reasons it keeps going is the conflation of two distinct concepts. One is getting perfection. The other is getting what you paid for. These are wildly different, but people who seek the second are often accused of seeking the first. The resulting straw man gets burnt at the stake, and around we go.

Deeply regretting starting this thread,

Matt
 

Kiwimac

New member
For me it’s not a lens I’d find especially useful and at about 80% of the cost of a new X2D body, I’d certainly have to feel it was useful before even thinking about paying for it!

One wide angle lens will suffice for me at the present time. I just can’t decide whether it should be the 21, the 25, the 30 or the 38!
 

wattsy

Well-known member
One wide angle lens will suffice for me at the present time. I just can’t decide whether it should be the 21, the 25, the 30 or the 38!
Well, those are all very different. Why not the 28P? – it's a decent compromise between all those focal lengths. Don't be put off by early reports that it is a bit mediocre – I thought that until I bought one to try out. It's an excellent lens.
 
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