kevinparis
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thanks Rick
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Thank you!The 20 to 40 mm range is where I like to be for FourThirds street work. 50mm and up tends to be a little too tight most of the time, forcing distances which cut intimacy. Sometimes I like a little wider too, but for your desired FoV range 25 to 40 mm is just right. Speed is important too as much of the indoor street scenes are rather poorly lit.
The two lenses I use this are the Summilux 25/1.4 and Konica 40mm f/1.8. The ZD 35 is sharper than the 40mm and allows autofocus when that's useful, I use it a lot too, but sometimes that extra stop of speed is very useful.
Torso? Ya need more than 50mm in most cases. It depends on the density of the crowd (ie. the approximation to the individual) but usually 85mm lenses (170mm equiv) is about right I find. Unless of course you don't mind capturing the scornful looks as you get in people's faces with your camera. 50mm is about right for full body or groups of 2 or 3. 35mm is about right for segments of a crowd. 24mm gets you nice scene-width crowds. Wider lenses than 24mm are too difficult to control composition in a crowd or busy street. Something like the 7-14mm Lumix can be fun for street but it's spray & pray pot-luck photography at best. But that may be what some people like too - just depends...I have a question for everyone:
If you were choosing between 50, 70 and 100mm effective focal length (25, 35 and 50mm on m43 body) for outdoor and indoor (bars and similar) "street" photography that is mainly focusing on individual rather than a scene (often focusing on torso and closer) which one of these focal lengths you would consider best fit most of the times?
You have to be much further away from your subjects than I for a 170mm EFL lens to be "torso only". For the distances I like to work, torso only is 25-35mm on FourThirds.Torso? Ya need more than 50mm in most cases. It depends on the density of the crowd (ie. the approximation to the individual) but usually 85mm lenses (170mm equiv) is about right I find. Unless of course you don't mind capturing the scornful looks as you get in people's faces with your camera. 50mm is about right for full body or groups of 2 or 3. 35mm is about right for segments of a crowd. 24mm gets you nice scene-width crowds. Wider lenses than 24mm are too difficult to control composition in a crowd or busy street. Something like the 7-14mm Lumix can be fun for street but it's spray & pray pot-luck photography at best. But that may be what some people like too - just depends...
He could, but at ISO1250 and 1/10s, the E-1 would produce a rather grainy and somewhat blurry result. I used to take photos of temple interiors with the E-1 because of the silent shutter, but I never went beyond ISO800, and even then, exposure had to be spot on. With the 11-22, it was mostly possible to hold the camera still enough to shoot at 1/10-1/15s, but with a 35mm, it's another story.Godfrey,
I like this photo quite a bit, could you have taken it with the E-1 and the same lens in your opinion?
Jorgen hit it on the nose. If I'd been there with the E-1, I'd have been at ISO 400 or 800 and shooting with the adapted Konica 40mm f/1.8 wide open. And even then, it would have been a grainier image. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a different photo. I do that too as I still love shooting with the E-1.He could, but at ISO1250 and 1/10s, the E-1 would produce a rather grainy and somewhat blurry result. I used to take photos of temple interiors with the E-1 because of the silent shutter, but I never went beyond ISO800, and even then, exposure had to be spot on. With the 11-22, it was mostly possible to hold the camera still enough to shoot at 1/10-1/15s, but with a 35mm, it's another story.
Oh, and very good photo btw. Wonder what she suddenly remembered.
I think it would look good in B&W or in a properly adjusted color rendering. As it is, the colors of the principal subject matter are flat and dingy yellowish, which distracts rather than adding an "old timey" feel.Here's one that almost applies! http://www.pbase.com/cokids/image/131870519.jpg
Old Fashioned soda fountain in Damariscotta, Maine. Should it be in B&W?
Seems most street photography is done in B&W.