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That's exactly why I'm waiting to the GX7 since long time! Globaly I liked the E-P2, the design, the ergonomy, the results… but a viewfinder in the corner terribly missed me (because I like to shoot with my two eyes wide open, as I always did with my beloved R-D1 or my M2).nice images of yous pen kit with EVF attached gekopaca. The EVF although very useful, seems to stick up awfully high on the Pen. Plus it does not seem very aerodynamic lol
I got my GX7 today and I find it very doable to shoot with the soft part of my second phalanx. Have been doing it for the past couple hours. That said, it isn't by any means perfect (requires more effort than on the E-M1, for example), so I plan to add one of these: Gariz Concave Type Soft Button XA SB1 Black Red for Camera Soft Button | eBay
I put those Gariz stick on soft release buttons on nearly all my cameras and find that they are a big improvement in every case. They stick on using 3M and have never fallen off any of my cameras. Just as good as a "screw in" soft release. The only handling issue I have with the GX7 is that I'd like if it had more of a thumb grip (like the recent Olympus cameras), and the hot shoe is so far to the left that I think it will be hard to design a good hot shoe mounted thumb grip.
Agree with most said about m43 versus Fuji. Only thing I really need to add is that the XE2 now also has really acceptable AF for me (speed, low light) and thus does away with the crippled AF from XE1 and XPro1.Get two or more photographers talking about a camera and get none will necessarily agree. What I hate you will love ...
There isn't a right camera for everyone although there is certainly a right camera for me, the only thing is I'm not sure which one it is!
I've been looking for a CFC to replace my NEX7 (can't wait until Sony eventually produce the range of lenses I actually want ... a few of us have no doubt been there!), so I've been considering the Panny GX7, the Fuji XE-1 (or 2) and the OMD-EM1.
Each camera has it's strengths and weaknesses in my opinion and I think that I'm quite torn between these cameras.
I have no interest in video whatsoever.
I tend to take considered (slow) pictures and do not do any form of action but do like available light/candid work.
Image quality has to be the number one consideration and in that respect all three are good enough with their respective strengths and weaknesses ironed out by shooting RAW (my usual practice).
One negative factor for the GX7 and EM1 is the smaller sensor. From my observations from processing RAW images from each camera, they are about 2 stops more grainy (iso 1600 on the XE1 being as grainy as iso 400 on the mft sensors (imo!)), that said I still got some very acceptable results at iso 1600 from the GX7. Without angrily jumping to the defense of your particular camera (please), do you have any comments that might reassure me on this? Grain is a bit of a killer for me.
I know that AF speed with the XE-1 isn't on a par with the GX7/EM1 but I think it is similar to the NEX7, so it's not an issue for me.
When processing the RAW image files from the XE-1, the EM1 and GX7 I noticed that the XE-1 needed less sharpening and when sharpened to the same amount the XE-1 files looked better than the GX7/EM1 versions which looked a little over-sharpened in comparison. I may well have been working on a duff bunch of RAW files (not taken by me incidentally), who knows? My question is, compared to using larger sensors (which many of you will have in the form of APSC cameras), do you feel the small sensor images look as good when printed?
Now I'm not trying to start a punch-up here! Just asking for any pertinent observations from those who have had use of both APSC and MFT sensors and in particular any users of the XE-1 who have rejected the MFT to find out why.
In the Leica 3 leaflet, so years ago it was, they explained, to my point of view, an excellent way to get steady, I didn't find better since. This of course works for cameras with VF but I guess you can adapt it if framing with back screen.Not necessary, Tom Abrahamsson did it for me
On this one he's using a "softie", but I use the same technic without soft release on my Epson R-D1 which have a bulky release button and it's the best "in(human)body stab" I know.
Interesting vase for sure Elliot. Yes, the GX7 is a heck of a camera... just got back a couple of weeks ago from China and the UK. The Gx7 and GH3 were my companions, both on sling straps loaded with the lenses for the day.I haven't seen anything about the GX7 recently, so thought I would post something. This vase is by a window and shows really different colors on different days and time of day. I tried the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 today.
I am considering the Fuji X-E1, since I have read so much about the Fuji colors, etc. But this little camera does quite well.
The GX7 will shoot up to 3200 ISO in Silent Mode... I have used S.M. a few times but due to other limitations it is not set to ON very oftern...Can anyone confirm the max iso when shooting in silent mode? On the GH3 it is 1600. Rumor has it that the GX7 is higher (3200?). Last week I was reminded that there are times when I need as little sound as possible (was shooting a video crew documenting one of our projects) but also need high iso.
Thanks Elliot, The Old Bell is in Malmesbury, south west UK, north of Bath. Great place to visit.Phil,
Excellent photos. Where is The Old Bell?
There is an outside chance (maybe 10%) that I might visit China on business later this year. If you have any more photos posted, I would be interested in seeing them.
Elliot
Hi Howard, I find the noise not a problem at all, while I rarely shoot at 12,800 the noise is very grainy and cleans up well with ACDSee Pro 7 or Capture One 7 if it is a really important shot.I recent purchased a RX1 and I am blown away that I can get decent shots shot at ISO 6400 and passable shots at 12800 which allows me to shoot in dark restaurants and inside without a flash. However that is my carry with me camera and my main camera is a Panasonic G5 and I am considering upgrading to a GX7.
I noted in this this thread that the GX7 can produce photos with good IQ up to ISO 3200. I am considering getting the slow 100-300 lenses and it will probably be necessary to use high ISO's so the shutter speed is high enough to get sharp, movement free photos shooting with the lens extended.
What are the results when shooting at ISO 6400 and 12800 with the GX7??
If I upgrade from G5 to the GX7, will there may be a noticable improvement in shooting at higher ISO's?
No problem Howard, they were just out of camera JPG, not the best of several, just 3 from the GH3 and 4 from the GX7, focus did not look too great on a couple, but you get the idea.. I have no reservations about using 6400 in a pinch, they clean up fine.Phil,
Thank you. I appreciate the ISO shots with both the camera and lens that I am considering. While I have always try to shoot at the lowest ISO possible, with the a slow long lenses requires a fast shutter speed to insure sharp photos, therefore a key variable is ISO.