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    Hi all,

    A very generous forum member has offered to loan me their 35mm APO-Digitar XL to try with my Credo 60. I've been sorely missing a wide angle lens for my technical camera setup (more view camera, being a Linhof Techno,) and I'd always planned to buy a Rodenstock 40mm HR W – my favourite FOV on 4x5" film – but now that they aren't sold new with Copal shutter my buying options are suddenly very limited. Hence I got to thinking about the SK 35mm as an alternative option on the second hand market. Long story short, I got to talking about the lens with someone who has one and uses it on their Techno and the offer was made for me to try it myself to see if it suits my needs. Very appreciative!

    My question is to do with how it performs with the 60mpx CCD sensor and how much of a necessity the CF is if shifting up to 8mm (I'm not sure if the one I'm borrowing has one or not.) I've read in historic threads that 8mm of shift is reaching the limit on this lens if sharp corners and colour fidelity are important, is this still true with new versions of C1? How much usable shift does it have in comparison to the RS 40mm and is the performance difference (if any) much to write home about?

    I guess my other question is what are people like me 'stuck' with CCD backs to do now that new lenses can't be had with Copal shutters? I see quite a few of these lenses for sale used in Alpa or Cambo mount, but very rarely (if ever) without a helicoid, mounted on a plain lens board. I can't afford to buy anything right now, but any tips for places to keep an eye out?

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    On any CCD back 60mp included I believe you will need the CF center shots and even more for shifts. If the lens is centered you should be able to get 10mm of shift. Color cast will be extreme but C1 does a very good job with the LCC.

    The only back I have been able to use the 35mm XL without a CF is the IQ4. But with a pure blue sky itís still needed at least I find it makes a big difference.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Itís been a long time since I sold my 35XL but I recall that I had to shoot it on my IQ260 with the center filter and even then the LCCs would look like a nasty bruise at times if I used movements.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    I think it should work well. As Paul and Graham said the CF and LCC are needed.

    Capture One has improved the LCC process since we were all using that back; it is probably better than we experienced.

    You can definitely shift the 40 more. I had the 40hr for several years, then bought the 35xl. Note the 40 is really 42mm and the 35 is really 36mm. I eventually sold the 40 because of size and focal length preference. But the 40hr is a bit sharper off center and you donít need a CF.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Thanks guys,

    You've confirmed my suspicions...

    To throw the cat amongst the pidgins... What's the Schneider 43mm APO Digitar XL like?

    Man oh man, I wish I had of bought the RS 40mm when I had the chance... At the time it was either put on a big show or buy the lens. I chose the former and have no regrets, but it still hurts knowing that Copal is dead and new is off the table.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    The 43XL also greatly benefits from the CF, amazing lens, but slow due to the CF. Easily shift 15mm on the IQ160 class sensor, not as much on the IQ180.

    Both the 35XL and 43XL are symetrical in optical design, and not retrofocus, thus you don't see as much elongation/flattening of subject matter towards the edges of the image. Both lenses are excellent for pano creation with just panning of the lens, no shifting of the back.

    As good as the 35XL is on the IQ4, I wish I still had my 43XL, but I sold it for the 40HR, and I have never been as happy with that lens due to the huge amount of retrofocus distortion and the amount of CA my lens has towards the edges. But it can be shot without a CF.

    It's too bad that Schneider moved away from the tech lenses, they had some real excellent optics, at a somewhat reasonable cost. When I look at the cost of the latest Rodenstock, 138mm at around 12K, I can assuredly state, that one will not ever be in my bag.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Seems I need to put the 43mm on my Ďwatch listí then... howís thats lens with the 100mpx cmos crop chip, as in the Fuji? Or does that body not accomodate it with such cameras as the Actus?

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    I shot with the 35XL and a Credo 60 for many years. Yes, centrefilter is a must! 10mm shift cleans up great with LCC. The main positives as I recall are, small/light, close to zero distortion, flare resistant, sharp to edge (after calibration at factory).
    What I didn't like was centrefilter that 'stole' 1,5 stops of light at the same time as it is not recomendable to shoot wide open, f8-f11 is the working range.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Thanks, Dan.

    I use a CF on my RS 55mm APO-SD which is 2.5 stops, so 1.5 stops seems good to me! To be fair, the 55mm only really needs it with massive shifts for stitching (I do a lot of 1:2 panos,) as the fall off is relatively sudden quite far out into the IC.

    Iím guessing that the symmetrical, non-retro focus design of the SK 35mm lens means falloff is a lot more present early on, and is amplified by the micro lenses present on the sensor? Either way, Iím looking forward to trying one out, CF or otherwise.

    Iíd never considered the SK 43mm lens, but it does seem it might be a valid option. Would still prefer the RS 40mm, but beggars canít be choosers...

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    35 xl is a great lens for 60 MP backs. Yes, you need CF, and Capture one did great job with LCC. 10 mm shift-no problem.
    40 mm is easier to use, better in the corners, what make the movements easier. I replaces my 35 xl for 32 HR after I get 80 MP back. I loved the no distortion design of schneider lenses and still have 2 of 43 xl that I find sharper than my 40 mm HR ( have also two of them on differnet systems). with the new 150 MP backs the 35 and 43 xl become very interesting lenses. Maybe Schneider should go back to produce these lenses again. The 28xl was also a graet lens- the backs where the problem, but now...

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    I keep an eye out on ebay sometimes a lens that I want pops up on their now and then.

    Also if you absolutely need a copal you can always buy a cheap copal lens and just swap the shutter. It might cost you a little extra but is always an option. I did that with my schneider 150mm.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Evidently you can’t simply swap the shutter in as the tolerances are very tight and components matched exactly at the RS factory.

    Paula at Linhof Studio has said she’s working on a solution for people finding themselves in a similar position to me, so fingers crossed all is not lost on the Copal front...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boinger View Post
    I keep an eye out on ebay sometimes a lens that I want pops up on their now and then.

    Also if you absolutely need a copal you can always buy a cheap copal lens and just swap the shutter. It might cost you a little extra but is always an option. I did that with my schneider 150mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Evidently you canít simply swap the shutter in as the tolerances are very tight and components matched exactly at the RS factory.

    Paula at Linhof Studio has said sheís working on a solution for people finding themselves in a similar position to me, so fingers crossed all is not lost on the Copal front...
    I mean yes that's what they say. Having done it myself it seemed okay and the lens performance is okay for me. If you are very very concerned you could always send the lens with the replacement copal shutter to the factory or sk grimes to have it adjusted.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Hi all,

    A very generous forum member has offered to loan me their 35mm APO-Digitar XL to try with my Credo 60. I've been sorely missing a wide angle lens for my technical camera setup (more view camera, being a Linhof Techno,) and I'd always planned to buy a Rodenstock 40mm HR W – my favourite FOV on 4x5" film – but now that they aren't sold new with Copal shutter my buying options are suddenly very limited. Hence I got to thinking about the SK 35mm as an alternative option on the second hand market. Long story short, I got to talking about the lens with someone who has one and uses it on their Techno and the offer was made for me to try it myself to see if it suits my needs. Very appreciative!

    My question is to do with how it performs with the 60mpx CCD sensor and how much of a necessity the CF is if shifting up to 8mm (I'm not sure if the one I'm borrowing has one or not.) I've read in historic threads that 8mm of shift is reaching the limit on this lens if sharp corners and colour fidelity are important, is this still true with new versions of C1? How much usable shift does it have in comparison to the RS 40mm and is the performance difference (if any) much to write home about?

    I guess my other question is what are people like me 'stuck' with CCD backs to do now that new lenses can't be had with Copal shutters? I see quite a few of these lenses for sale used in Alpa or Cambo mount, but very rarely (if ever) without a helicoid, mounted on a plain lens board. I can't afford to buy anything right now, but any tips for places to keep an eye out?

    Thanks,

    T

    Pretty extensive test of 35XL on CCD backs here:
    https://www.dtcommercialphoto.com/ph...h-cam-testing/

    The 35XL has a larger stated image circle, but is less sharp when shifted. I'd recommend the 43XL or the 40HR if possible.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Thanks Doug,

    An academic question due to current lack of funds... but do you ever see these lenses in your inventory used? Do people ever trade them in? Iím kind of depressed at what seems like the extreme unlikelihood of ever finding one.

    Iíve always considered the RS 40mm my best bet as I like to employ generous movements at times, but the SK 43mm sounds a good alternative especially with the newer back illuminated CMOS chips like in the new Fuji and IQ4 - Iím hoping Hasselblad eventually release a CFV with the higher res chip as a realistic upgrade path from my Credo as an IQ4 will most likely be cost prohibitive for a long while yet.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    PS: am I right in thinking that your recommendation for the 35mm XL IC being 70mm only allows for 2mm rise / fall?

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Bumping thread...

    Wondering also how much rise / fall one can realistically use with the 35mm XL and a 60mpx CCD chip without CF before the lens cast and vignette is edging on too much to remove via LCC. I.e. can I get 5-8mm and do ok, or without CF is it far less?

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    PS: am I right in thinking that your recommendation for the 35mm XL IC being 70mm only allows for 2mm rise / fall?
    Correct, based on our criteria of sharp results throughout the frame.

    Schneider was very ďoptimisticĒ with the image circle sizes they specified for their lenses. If sharpness is important then the 40HR has significantly more room for movement.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    I thought the IC on the 35XL was 90mm.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._XL.html/specs

    The lenses I know that have 70mm are the Rodenstock 35mm and 28mm (magenta bands). Both of these are 70mm IC, and Rodenstock uses the IC indicator so once you shift past 5mm, you hit a hard vignette. Never did understand the need for that.

    Net, if you shift the Rodenstock 35mm or 28mm, to 5mm, you quickly hit this vignette which BTW ruins a lot more than the outer edge of the image.

    On the IQ160, I often shifted to 10mm, and usually 8mm, at 10mm you need to be at F11 for best results. Schneider does not use the IC indicator so you can take the lens out without vignetting. You must have the CF to shift it at all, due to the amount of light fall off. You can also get 10mm of rise and fall.

    On more modern backs, 80MP and up, the lens can't handle the shifts past 5mm as you start to see a lot of smearing towards the edges.

    The best thing about the 35XL besides the weight, and size, is the fact it's a symmetrical design, thus lends itself to pano work so much better than the Rodenstock's which are retrofocus so they tend to have classic retrofocus distortion towards the edge of the frame. At least all of mine due including the 40mm. Effect is elongation and flattening of subjects, just shoot a car tire and look at it, no longer round. Shift and it's worse.

    Appears that some Rodenstock lenses have less of this distortion that others, but since you can't just to to your local store to check, you are at your dealer's mercy.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    The lenses I know that have 70mm are the Rodenstock 35mm and 28mm (magenta bands). Both of these are 70mm IC, and Rodenstock uses the IC indicator so once you shift past 5mm, you hit a hard vignette. Never did understand the need for that.
    Hi Paul, in practice do the HR-S lenses hard-vignette at exactly 70mm? Or rather at exactly 80mm?

    More to the point, do you get dark corners if you use them on 6x6 film or can you just barely use them? (I know you're supposed to use screw-on filters on the rear ends to adjust for the lack of cover glass on film.)

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by aly324 View Post
    Hi Paul, in practice do the HR-S lenses hard-vignette at exactly 70mm? Or rather at exactly 80mm?

    More to the point, do you get dark corners if you use them on 6x6 film or can you just barely use them? (I know you're supposed to use screw-on filters on the rear ends to adjust for the lack of cover glass on film.)
    They vignette as soon as you hit the edge of the IC. So at 5mm of shift you will get a shadow starting to show. The 28 also shows a white band long before the 5mm range is reached. Itís very evident in a blue sky or solid dark area of the image. I used to know the term for this effect but have forgotten it.

    I canít answer what effect you would see on a 6x6 film.

    Itís very evident on the IQ160 54x44 sized sensor.

    HR-S lenses were designed for the smaller sized smaller pixel pitch of digital sensors.

    With the 28mm HR I quickly gave up shifting pretty pointless due to the IC.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    I thought the IC on the 35XL was 90mm.
    According to a document I have from Schneider the IC at full aperture is 70mm whereas at f11 it is 90mm. Must be the usable IC they are referring to.
    Here's a link to the document: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4xe9bgshij...are_e.pdf?dl=0

    I am really debating whether I should sell mine or not. On one hand I mainly use my 40HR but on the other hand the 35XL is such a great small lightweight lens and when I eventually (maybe) get a BSI sensor it will shine again. For now it is great on my Achromatic
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    BSI gives the 35XL new life for sure. Many times you can shoot without the CF which never was possible before for me.

    I agree itís so tiny and light itís a keeper.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Paul's point about distortion is well taken. The Schneider lens lineup (from a few view camera lenses and the Rollei lenses from 1990s) have classic barrel distortion, a simple curve - some in the center, less in the edges, easy to correct in C1.

    Other lenses, (such as the Zeiss Rollei lenses and some others view camera lenses) have a moustache shaped configuration to the curve, a bear to correct. That said, some of the Rodies have little distortion at all.

    Something to keep an eye on, especially if stitching.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Thanks all for the informative replies. I'll only use the lens at f11-16, so no problems with regards to smaller IC at wider apertures. DOF will I assume also help with corner sharpness due to field curvature.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    You must have the CF to shift it at all, due to the amount of light fall off. You can also get 10mm of rise and fall.
    I don't have a CF to use unfortunately, so going by your advise it'll be interesting to see how much exactly it does vignette off centre. I'm looking forward to giving it a go regardless.

    If anyone has on hand some 35mm XL LCC shots with and without CF at the same camera settings on the 60mpx sensor, I'd be keen to see them to visually assess the difference.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Pemihan View Post
    According to a document I have from Schneider the IC at full aperture is 70mm whereas at f11 it is 90mm. Must be the usable IC they are referring to.
    It is not, at least not by any definition that is reasonable to me.

    That lens is not remotely sharp at the edge of a 90mm image circle at f/11, nor at the edge of a 70mm image circle wide open. At least, not for high res backs. The 60mp Credo 60 is a bit more forgiving than say an IQ3 100mp or IQ4 150mp in terms of corner sharpness, but even at 60mp I would not feel comfortable telling a customer it is useable at 90mm of image circle. Our rating is for 70mm image circle; it's a bit conservative, much like Rodenstock's stated image circles.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by aly324 View Post
    Hi Paul, in practice do the HR-S lenses hard-vignette at exactly 70mm? Or rather at exactly 80mm?
    The stated image circle of Rodenstock lenses is slightly conservative. Depending on the lens the hard vignette is usually several mm beyond the stated image circle and the image is acceptably sharp for a couple mm larger than stated (i.e. sharpness ends somewhere between the stated image circle and the hard vignette).

    To reiterate a point I've made several times in this thread the stated image circle of Schneider digitar lenses is grossly optimistic (at least when referencing a high-res modern digital back).
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Bumping thread...

    Wondering also how much rise / fall one can realistically use with the 35mm XL and a 60mpx CCD chip without CF before the lens cast and vignette is edging on too much to remove via LCC. I.e. can I get 5-8mm and do ok, or without CF is it far less?
    TJV... I linked earlier to a test that included (free to download) raw files that show you exactly what the 60mp sensor looks like at various amounts of shift.

    Have you looked at those files?
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD



    Shot with Schneider 35 XL with centrefilter + Alpa SWA + Leaf Credo 60

    This was taken to its extreme with 14 mm of rise @f11! The image is not cropped, the whole capture used.
    I have printed it 140 x 100 cm with my iPF8400 and is impressive at 2-2,5 metres viewing distance.

    100% crop at the very top and in the centre below.



    Yes, the HR32 is the better lens overall of the two, but the 35XL is useful and I have numerous large prints that shines.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post
    Shot with Schneider 35 XL with centrefilter + Alpa SWA + Leaf Credo 60

    This was taken to its extreme with 14 mm of rise @f11! The image is not cropped, the whole capture used.
    Weird. That looks better than the results from DT's 35XL testing (including aperture sweeps on three copies of the lens at various points, including one sourced from Alpa and two sourced from Cambo) based on which I'm making my comments.

    The only thing I can think of is that most of our testing is done in mid-large rooms than subjects at infinity. Maybe the focus plane bows back (toward infinity) at the edges of the image circle? That would be unexpected (normally if the focus curves on a wide angle it bowls closer, not further) but is the only explanation I can think of.

    EDIT: Just noticed your crops are from the top center, not the far corner as I assumed. The main weakness of this lens (and the main reason I dispute the validity of its stated image circle) is at the corner, with shift. Can you please post the corner of that file?

    P.S. Lovely image; beautiful composition and tonal choices. None of the above should be construed as a negative criticism against the image itself.
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Doug,
    I had it for quite a while and used it without any hesitation. But at one point I wanted to convert my Schneider 72L to a Helvetar 75 and thought at the same time that I could send the 35XL for some TLC and calibration. (many years ago)
    When I got it back from Schneider it was a huge improvement! Night and day.

    Yesteryear when there was more talk about this particular lens I also recommended to send it in in several threads because of the difference in my case.

    This image example was a one-off with that much rise. Normally I did stay at 10 mm and as you can see, this was no problem whats-so-ever.

    Wish I never sold it....
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Of course, extreme top left & right corner. Agreed more degradation, but not too shabby...


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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Forgot to say 'thank you for the compliment'
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    Stunning results. Many thanks for posting.

    Does Schneider still service these? And will Alpa mount them?

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    Of course, extreme top left & right corner. Agreed more degradation, but not too shabby...


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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    I'll share another 35XL with movements + Credo 60.

    This one is much less extreme at 8 mm rise. As you can see, I cannot show the extreme corner, but thought it is still interesting to see how it holds up at the top.



    And the 100% crop:

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Stunning results. Many thanks for posting.

    Does Schneider still service these? And will Alpa mount them?
    Thanks Geoff!

    As I understand it, Schneider does no longer service the lenses. All service and Alpa conversions are carried out by http://www.greiner-photo.de
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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Man, you guys werenít exaggerating. This lens is TINY!

    Looking forward to trying it, hopefully tomorrow. I have no CF so interested how far I can push the movements and what falloff is like. Iím guessing 6+mm itíll be like my RS 55mm APO-SD when shifted 17mm horizontally without the CF. The RS CF is 2.5 stops but the falloff is very, very harsh after about 14mm and not really needed for moderate movements. Will report back...

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Keep your eyes open for a CF. Your LCC will be doing a lot of work even on center shots without one. As much as 2 stops between center and edge.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    After reading through all of these posts, I realized I mis-read Doug's post. I totally agree with him on the fact that the "useable" IC is around 70mm and that is at around F11. With the CF on, the makes the lens very limited due to shutter speeds available.

    I regularly shifted my to 8mm of R and L shift, but even on my IQ160 and 260, the edges suffered. C1 in later versions 10 and up, does a great job on regaining some of the details. but you still get a bit of smearing at 8mm. For me and landscape panos 5 to 8mm of shift is not enough to really make a pano, so I quickly changed over to just panning with the 35XL, and in my memory, I did confuse that with shifting. At the time I also had the 43XL (still wish I had it) and it easily made 15mm of shift on the CCD backs.

    The huge difference the 35XL has now with BSI, backs is basically new life in that on center at F11 it's a very useable lens, if you have a lens that is centered well. You "can" shoot without the CF on center, if you are not shooting a purely solid subject like the blue sky, as you will get slight color cast and vignetting. With the CF on, you have a excellent image, LCC still needed but only for light fall off IMO. But shifting it at all is pretty much not an option.

    I always carry it since it's a shirt pocket lens, even in R mount.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Thanks Paul, all great information. I will soon find out for myself and will post some LCCs here for people to see, even if only for future reference.

    I'm very grateful to have the loan of the lens Ė it was sent from halfway around the world! Ė so will try and make the most of it, even if that means working within some quite strong limitations. I've been lacking a true wide lens in my bag since buying my Credo 60 and it has been driving me crazy. If I owned a 40mm it'd be used for 90% of my shots, but instead I've been making do with 1:2 panoramic stitches using my 55mm Rodenstock. While that has made for some great images and helped my work go in new directions as a consequence, I do really miss a wide angle for single shots. lately I've been shooting mainly 8x10" film with a 210mm lens and have been loving it, but it is like setting fire to the bank account each time I go out into the field. I absolutely love the format and medium, but sometimes digital is just better and the Credo is still an amazing back especially when used on the Techno.

    Anyway, back to the 35mm XL, I have high hopes and wish I could buy it and a CF. It'd be a heck of a lot cheaper than a new RS 40mm, if not as ideal a solution. Funds now are very tight, but you never know what is around the corner!

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    If you keep the lens, I would run, not walk to Linholf and purchase this:

    https://www.linhofstudio.com/product...r_5.6__35_XL__

    Paula, at Linholf is wonderful to work with, and knows her products. If this filter is in stock, it's priced pretty good also, shows in stock.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    35xl/IQ4 150 with CF, no LCC @ 0, 5 and 10mm. f/11.

    Clockwise from top left: Full image, 0mm, 10mm, 5mm bottom right corner. Corresponds to IC of 67, 75 and 84mm respectively. Well, the crops are not exactly in the very corner. I did it quickly...

    Not as good as Dan's samples, but I'm only 5 ft from the subject and this is 150mp vs 60mp.

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    Re: Schneider 35mm APO-Digitar XL with 60mpx CCD

    Thanks Paul,

    Yes, Paula is a legend; deserves a medal for top shelf service. Iím in New Zealand but consider Linhof Studio my local camera shop.

    Iíll email her tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    If you keep the lens, I would run, not walk to Linholf and purchase this:

    https://www.linhofstudio.com/product...r_5.6__35_XL__

    Paula, at Linholf is wonderful to work with, and knows her products. If this filter is in stock, it's priced pretty good also, shows in stock.

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    Thanks Dave!

    Man, now I want an IQ4...

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