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I hear you, but I actually hope that the Z6s/Z7s will offer DUAL CFE.CFE is definitely nice when transferring images off the card, very fast. I do however miss the option of sending jpegs to a smaller card while raws are on the main card, and look forward to the addition of a second card slot in the next rev of the Z body.
No, I agree it would be nice too -- I'm just not sure there's room for 2 CFE/XQD slots...I hear you, but I actually hope that the Z6s/Z7s will offer DUAL CFE.
Maybe its only me though .....
Going for SD cards on the Z5 was probably a very good idea. Most people have SD cards, either for their old camera(s) or for other devices, they have readers that accept SD cards or even a slot in their computer, and they are very easy to find everywhere.... my XQD cards, my XQD card reader(s), etc.
Joe
Yeah I understand all of that but I guess that’s why it’s a bit of a head scratcher to develop the camera in the first place IMO. I’m not saying it from a quality of the camera standpoint... it’s all coming from a business related tandpont in a shrinking industry.Many Japanese electronics manufacturers, including Nikon (and Sony), routinely cannibalize their existing products with new products. It's a business practice that confounded us when I worked for Ma Bell. Their product cycles are insanely short and are designed to leapfrog current products even before the current products are EOL. Also, the products aren't organized into neat well-defined product categories and oftentimes are developed by separate and competing product teams. With the decline of camera sales worldwide, I don't know whether this type of product development culture can survive, but it tends to keep the manufacturer's name in the news flow.
So think of the Z5 as just another Nikon "vessel" for Z-mount lenses, not as a discrete competitor of the Z6, Z7, Z50, Zxx.
I might get one and have it converted to 720nm IR. That would allow me to divest my IR-converted Z6, my XQD cards, my XQD card reader(s), etc.
Joe
The Z5 and the Z6 are the D610 and D750 of the mirrorless world, Nikon's two longest running and probably best selling FX DSLR cameras ever. Like with those DSLR bodies, there's not an ocean between them, neither with regards to price nor with regards to image capture abilities. Still, offering both is important. The Z5 for the "The Z6 is too advanced for me and I don't need fancy video" crowd. The Z6 for "I want the best but I don't need a zillion pixels and I plan to shoot feature films in the near future" crowd. It's all about positioning.Yeah I understand all of that but I guess that’s why it’s a bit of a head scratcher to develop the camera in the first place IMO. I’m not saying it from a quality of the camera standpoint... it’s all coming from a business related tandpont in a shrinking industry.
IIRC the D610 was a replacement for the D600 because of a lot of issues they had with the sensors failing. It was released prior to the D810 I thought. The D750 was a higher end model that was a replacement for the D700 (in some ways) and the D610 for those that didn’t want/need the D8xx series. So it doesn’t seem like that’s a straight line comparison. That’s like assuming the Z5 was an alternative to the Z7. They play in two different price points though there may be some overlap in users.The Z5 and the Z6 are the D610 and D750 of the mirrorless world, Nikon's two longest running and probably best selling FX DSLR cameras ever. Like with those DSLR bodies, there's not an ocean between them, neither with regards to price nor with regards to image capture abilities. Still, offering both is important. The Z5 for the "The Z6 is too advanced for me and I don't need fancy video" crowd. The Z6 for "I want the best but I don't need a zillion pixels and I plan to shoot feature films in the near future" crowd. It's all about positioning.
The D600/610 and D750 were both lower end cameras than the D700. Many claim that a replacement still hasn't been made for the D700, but for all practical purposes, the D810 and later the D850 filled that role, although with much higher resolution. The D800/E was to slow a camera to reach that level of operational speed and was more of a high-res niche camera.IIRC the D610 was a replacement for the D600 because of a lot of issues they had with the sensors failing. It was released prior to the D810 I thought. The D750 was a higher end model that was a replacement for the D700 (in some ways) and the D610 for those that didn’t want/need the D8xx series. So it doesn’t seem like that’s a straight line comparison. That’s like assuming the Z5 was an alternative to the Z7. They play in two different price points though there may be some overlap in users.
Well no need to keep discussing. Just my thoughts. I’m sure it’ll be a fine camera for some.
I think the perfecting of BSI sensor tech is where it starts; it's probably what's going to allow a FF digital sensor to approach 80 to 100 usable MP resolution while retaining good noise and lower light capability. It also goes a long way toward solving the issue of the photon-bucket entrance angle. Coupled with shorter mirrorless flange focals, this further augments lens design. Now add sensor shift technology and you have some interesting times even at the current sensor resolutions. Finally, once you get to 80 or 100MP, 4:1 pixel binning becomes super viable for enhanced low-light capability. Truth is, I would take binning now at 45MP for hand-held night street shooting -- it could give us super clean ISO 52K?"What will be the next breakthrough innovation in camera technology?"
Joe
The beauty of the Z5 is in it's simplicity while keeping quality solution where it counts:
- Good viewfinder
- Great battery life for a mirrorless
- Dual card slots that uses cheap, readily available SD cards
- Same great ergonomics as the other Z-cameras and Nikon cameras in general
If I were going to buy Nikon mirrorless now, this is the camera I would buy.
Thank you, Rayyan. One doesn't have much choice in this country. It's rather closed and very safeStay safe Jorgen.