Paul Spinnler
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This is what I mean. It is astounding and frankly a pleasure when you open files like that.
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This is what I mean. It is astounding and frankly a pleasure when you open files like that.
Thanks Warren!Here are a couple of images I made while testing out the 30TS that illustrate why you would want to stitch diagonally. Please excuse the harsh afternoon light.
Here is the image without any shift:
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I am standing where I am because I want the spacing of the soffit to be even all the way around. If I simply shift up then I won't be able to get the left side of the building in the shot. If I turn the camera to get the left side of the building then I ruin my 1 point perspective.
The solution is diagonal shifting at 300° + 11.7mm shift with a TS lens or left about 5mm and up about 10mm with X+Y shifting on a tech cam. Same result. You get your 1 point perspective, the soffit remains even all the way around, and the whole building is in the shot.
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I sold my 28 HR some years ago. I worked at the time with Leaf 12 big sensor 80 MP and for this was 32 HR much better option. Also in the wide place I had the Digaron-S 23mm HR that is even better. I made some comparision for me and the edges of the 23 hr were always better than of the 28 HR. 28 HR was not bad, it was the best 28 mm wide angle lens on the market, much better than hasselblad h or mamiya lenses. The 28 hr was a brother of the 35 HR. The design of the 35 hr was pushed to more wide angle, when you compare the 35 hr to 28 HR so the 35 hr has very less distortion, mostly non visible. The 28 hr has some, not much, but correction in PS was alwasy needed, where the 35 hr when not shiftet to extreme did not need correction. 28 hr is sharp, in whole image circle, that goes more than 70 mm. Rodenstock write 70 mm- this is the bullet proof image circle in that the lens has their optimum, but you could go for little more. I used the 28 hr with 5-6 mm on big sensor, or even 10 mm- than I cleaned the dark corners- when it was sky, it was not a problem.@Alkibiades: Do you still have the 28mm Rodenstock HR?
Is it also as sharp within 70mm as the 35mm or is it a notch below in performance vs. 35HR?
I always forget that this one was also a popular architectural photograhy lens before all the W options came out.
I guess the main reason to use it would be to have a colour cast free 28mm on crop MF?
Thanks for this, much appreciated!Here are a couple of images I made while testing out the 30TS that illustrate why you would want to stitch diagonally. Please excuse the harsh afternoon light.
Here is the image without any shift:
View attachment 210323
I am standing where I am because I want the spacing of the soffit to be even all the way around. If I simply shift up then I won't be able to get the left side of the building in the shot. If I turn the camera to get the left side of the building then I ruin my 1 point perspective.
The solution is diagonal shifting at 300° + 11.7mm shift with a TS lens or left about 5mm and up about 10mm with X+Y shifting on a tech cam. Same result. You get your 1 point perspective, the soffit remains even all the way around, and the whole building is in the shot.
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here an example of the 28HR on the big sensor: I use bigger movements with 28 and 23 hr to get the right view, it was more then 10 mm on 53,9 x 40,4 mm , so you see the dark edges. As they are in the sky area I could clean them simply or even crop the picture a bit.@Alkibiades: Do you still have the 28mm Rodenstock HR?
Is it also as sharp within 70mm as the 35mm or is it a notch below in performance vs. 35HR?
I always forget that this one was also a popular architectural photograhy lens before all the W options came out.
I guess the main reason to use it would be to have a colour cast free 28mm on crop MF?
I've just revisited this thread and noticed your question was not answered directly, you probably already found the answer but, in case you didn't, here's what Warren Diggles wrote on page 3 of this thread:Is any combination available using the "diagonal" shifting method? ie to replicate any combination of shift left/right and rise/fall on a view camera? Or is limited on the Fuji 30mm TS-E?
The same should apply to the Canon 50mm TS-E?
If it is and I can get my head around it, will save me a whole bunch of cashola!
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Which is which – filename not revealing?28xl even on old 39 MP back is a pleasure to work, 30 TS, shines in extremly high resolution even at full 15 mm movements...but it will need distortion correction- I use C1 22, I need an update to get the correction for 30 TS..
After reading this I double checked. When I saw data like 249° in C1 I assumed it was being recorded in 1° increments. I was wrong, lens rotation direction is displaying and recording in 3° increments for me as well.The only thing I have to add is that, for some strange reason, my GF 30mm T/S cannot rotate in 1° increments, more specifically: during rotation the viewfinder will display rotation amount in 3° increments instead of 1° increments. Not sure if this carries over into software as I mainly use Lightroom.
Mr. Spinnler, all of the seven images in the post you're quoting were shot with the GF 30mm T/S on a GFX 100S.Which is which – filename not revealing?
After reading this I double checked. When I saw data like 249° in C1 I assumed it was being recorded in 1° increments. I was wrong, lens rotation direction is displaying and recording in 3° increments for me as well.
Interestingly, shift amounts are displayed in .5mm increments on my screen, but C1 shows shift amount data in .1mm increments.
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The shift information is displayed on the LCD in 0.5mm increments, but when it's sent to C1, it's recorded in 0.1mm increments.Thanks for double-checking! Very curious indeed.. So as a result the EVF/LCD on my GFX100 II displays 'less accurate' information?
If the shift/rotation sensor passes information to C1 in .1mm increments for shift and 1° increments for rotation, then I wonder why the EVF/LCD does not reflect this.
Or there might be other theories explaining this discrepancy.