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Fun with MF images 2024

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
Sea Stacks @ Sunset by John Ngai, on Flickr
WRS 1250 | IQ4 150 | SK 60XL | f/16 | 3-image horizontal stitch | 6.000s, Automated Frame Average​

It's been around 6 months since I've gone out for what might pass as a serious shoot (that pesky day job keeps getting in the way), so it was nice to spend the past weekend with some very good photography friends in Big Sur along the California coast. This image was from the first evening of the trip, after a 4+ hour drive in traffic. My skills were a bit rusty but came back to me eventually. Photography aside, it was just nice to enjoy the view and breathe in the ocean air.

A few more images to come soon...

John
John,

Did you take any extreme measures to prevent the horizon light from turning yellow (usually Red Channel blowout). I don't know if the IQ4150 is especially good that way, or if you took steps, but it's a hard problem to avoid in other cameras I've used.

Lovely colors all around.

Matt
 

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
Yesterday morning, on the way to a work meeting, I walked by an alleyway that I found interesting. The camera was in the truck so afterwards I took a few moments to make some photos with the new Hasselblad 100C and 35XL. It really is a nice combo.

Each of these images was created using camera movements ranging from 5-10mm of camera fall and/or shift. The LCC images were pretty clean, but I didn't bother inspecting them for banding :D

Smile. You're On Camera. by Warren Diggles, on Flickr

Everything Dances by Warren Diggles, on Flickr

Listen by Warren Diggles, on Flickr
Warren,

Love the colors in the last image - intense and real.

Matt
 

jng

Well-known member
John,

Did you take any extreme measures to prevent the horizon light from turning yellow (usually Red Channel blowout). I don't know if the IQ4150 is especially good that way, or if you took steps, but it's a hard problem to avoid in other cameras I've used.

Lovely colors all around.

Matt
Thanks, Matt. I'm 99.9% certain that I used a 3-stop grad ND filter to tame the light at the horizon (it was blinding, I was having trouble seeing anything behind the camera). It's hard for me to judge yellow vs orange in the unprocessed raw file but the L*ab values on the horizon just above the distant rock in the original capture were 82/19/37, 76/30/46 after I pushed the recovery slider down to -100, and 72/36/64 after selecting the area just above the horizon and adding a bit of saturation (all in C1). Interestingly, in the unprocessed file the L*ab values on the sun itself were ~100/~0/~0 and yet I was able to recover it as yellow and not white in the processed file. Go figure.

If you're interested in pursuing this further, in the interest of keeping this thread focused on imagery perhaps you can start another thread to tease this all apart? I'm sure Soup will be happy to serve as your trusty teaching assistant, although you may need to ask him whether he has any orange tabby friends...

John
 

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
Thanks, Matt. I'm 99.9% certain that I used a 3-stop grad ND filter to tame the light at the horizon (it was blinding, I was having trouble seeing anything behind the camera). It's hard for me to judge yellow vs orange in the unprocessed raw file but the L*ab values on the horizon just above the distant rock in the original capture were 82/19/37, 76/30/46 after I pushed the recovery slider down to -100, and 72/36/64 after selecting the area just above the horizon and adding a bit of saturation (all in C1). Interestingly, in the unprocessed file the L*ab values on the sun itself were ~100/~0/~0 and yet I was able to recover it as yellow and not white in the processed file. Go figure.

If you're interested in pursuing this further, in the interest of keeping this thread focused on imagery perhaps you can start another thread to tease this all apart? I'm sure Soup will be happy to serve as your trusty teaching assistant, although you may need to ask him whether he has any orange tabby friends...

John
That's a good idea. I've always been frustrated with sunrise images, especially the difficulty of recreating the beautiful coral pink. Of course, this will be sensor dependent, but I have the Leica S3 and Hassy X2D on hand. And I wake up early. Soup, I'm afraid, is unlikely to provide a proper reflection. He may participate in the Behind the Scenes in his role of "What are you doing and why aren't you feeding me?"

My understanding of Highlight Recovery is that it uses surrounding unblown color values to interpolate, but I don't know the details.

Matt
 
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PeterA

Well-known member
Hi Peter, you seems to like the rendering of the 90/3,2, right?
It has that special soft-sharp delicate way to render, I think.
KR Thorkil
Hi Thorkil,

none of the XCD or newer V lenses are cheap so one should expect excellent performance- and I haven't been disappointed with the 30/45 /35-75/90/120 Ive bought so far. As for the 90 3,2 these are my observations with a couple of shots to illustrate:

Shoot wide open and close in to your subject and you can get the Leica Noctilux/Summilux) rendering with no loss of micro contrast or super fine detail


r1-1.jpg




- step back and close down to 5.6- 11 and you still get high subject separation and pleasing OOF rendering but more environmental information


g1-1.jpg




step back even further to shoot a landscape or urban scape and you get as above.

I don't have the 80 1.9 to compare against or the new V - but I think the 80 1,9 is a target future present to myself although purportedly slower focusing than this 90 or the new V 90 2.8.

PS As an aside : used camera bodies are becoming ridiculously cheap compared to their new prices these days- one could buy a 'used' GFX1000 / 100S and a GFX 110/2 for example for the price of a 'new Hasselblad V 90/2.8. I have seriously considered adding a Fuji 100S just for a couple of lenses from Fuji which I think are outstanding eg the 110/2.

Cheers
Pete
 

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
Take it easy Matt .
I'll try to cut back on the Soup pics ;).

But since the XCD 90/3.2 was mentioned, I took this last week at f/9.5 (by mistake). I love this lens. It is ferociously sharp without being annoying - as special in that regard as the Leica S 120/2.5 APO-Macro.



I've posted this one before (a few times, I'm afraid) Back in 2019 with an X1D looking at hikers on the far rim of the Mt. Vesuvius caldera.


Matt
 
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jng

Well-known member
Big Sur Coastline by John Ngai, on Flickr
WRS1250 | IQ4 150 | SK 60XL | f/11 | 4m00s, Automated Frame Average​

Part 2 of my recent photographic mini-adventure: on Saturday as we made our way south along the coast of the Monterey Peninsula, we happened upon this quintessential Big Sur vista. There really was no choice but to pull over. After admiring the view together with others who were similarly enchanted, the gear came out of the car and we got to work. This is what I came up with...

John
 

Thorkil

Well-known member
Hi Thorkil,

none of the XCD or newer V lenses are cheap so one should expect excellent performance- and I haven't been disappointed with the 30/45 /35-75/90/120 Ive bought so far. As for the 90 3,2 these are my observations with a couple of shots to illustrate:

Shoot wide open and close in to your subject and you can get the Leica Noctilux/Summilux) rendering with no loss of micro contrast or super fine detail


View attachment 211689




- step back and close down to 5.6- 11 and you still get high subject separation and pleasing OOF rendering but more environmental information


View attachment 211690




step back even further to shoot a landscape or urban scape and you get as above.

I don't have the 80 1.9 to compare against or the new V - but I think the 80 1,9 is a target future present to myself although purportedly slower focusing than this 90 or the new V 90 2.8.

PS As an aside : used camera bodies are becoming ridiculously cheap compared to their new prices these days- one could buy a 'used' GFX1000 / 100S and a GFX 110/2 for example for the price of a 'new Hasselblad V 90/2.8. I have seriously considered adding a Fuji 100S just for a couple of lenses from Fuji which I think are outstanding eg the 110/2.

Cheers
Pete
Hi Peter
Thank you. Nice pictures. I think its a very special and delicate lens.
I have one on its way from Berlin.
Well for those with good memory, they will remember the link and interview with Per Nordlund from previously:
Go to 52 minutes.
It was his words that cought me
KR Thorkil
PS. I'll stick to Hasselblad, just a strong feeling inside
PPS for my part the 21/4, 45P and the 90/3.2 will do. Fully satiesfied.
 
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PeterA

Well-known member
Hi Peter
Thank you. Nice pictures. I think its a very special and delicate lens.
I have one on its way from Berlin.
Well for those with good memory, they will remember the link and interview with Per Nordlund from previously:
Go to 52 minutes.
It was his words that cought me
KR Thorkil
PS. I'll stick to Hasselblad, just a strong feeling inside
PPS for my part the 21/4, 45P and the 90/3.2 will do. Fully satiesfied.

Hi KR thanks for the link - yes less is more it helps that 100MP allows for generous and useful crops if required. Perhaps the forum needs a separate thread to discuss native lenses for the X system there doesn't seem to be too much out there from actual users...

Pete

EDIT; or should I say the lens info and examples is often mixed in with the general photography thread which makes it hard to find specific info...
 
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