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Hasselblad XCD 90mm V lens is shipping
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Simply put, my 45P and 65 2.8 just blew them away for landscapes / architecture in terms of corner sharpness. And we are not talking just the very corners here either but as far out as the outer 1/3rd of the image circle. So after I also tried a friend's lenses and then read what Diglloyd had to say about it after putting up the subscription money, I returned both lenses for a full refund. I tried for over a week and shot close to 100GB of comparison and real life use case photos and just could not get them to hold up.
The saga starts here:
Hasselblad xcd 55v lens
Any first hand experiences with this lens? Comparisons to 65mm? How you get along with the focal length? Do you use it side by side with 38mm or are they too close in focal length? I have ordered one...because of size and AF and weight and f2.5 ...however I wish 38 and 55 were a little bit...
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PapaJoe
Active member
Ah, the "Diglloyd Effect". Lloyd isn't a fan of the Hasselblad X system in general, and seems to prefer Fuji GFX and Sony a7Rx. I'm fortunate to have and enjoy all three and have had no corner issues with my 55mm and 38mm V lenses. Maybe there is sample variation at work. Sorry to hear that your experience was less than optimal.
Joe
Maybe, but I have yet to see a photo from either of them from anyone in what would be a landscape use that had sharp corners. And I don't mean "sharp enough for my use" but as sharp as either the 45P or 65...as in proper sharp.
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MGrayson
Subscriber and Workshop Member
My first 28P had soft corners. The second one didn’t. Sample variation, on that lens anyway, confirmed.
usm
Well-known member
You have/had the XCD21 also, right? How would you compare them personally?
MGrayson
Subscriber and Workshop Member
The XCD 21 is a miracle, but it's not a tech camera lens. The very outermost corners are a bit smeared. Better than my first 28P, comparable to the second one, and nothing like the XCD 30 (very few lenses that wide or wider are). 99% of my XCD 21 images have corners consisting of sky, water, or extreme foreground. Only a few brick walls (they were covered with vines!)
Hmmm. No issues with my copy of the XCD21 in the corners as far as I can see, but most of my images made with this lens similarly have either sky or foreground dominating these areas of the image so (this is my main use case for ultrawide angle lenses - generating perspective) so no brick walls in my collection, either. Is it as clean as my Rodie 40HR shifted on the IQ4 150? Probably not, but then again I take the Hasselblad to locations where I either can't or won't take the bigger kit.
Back to the original topic at hand: it will be interesting to hear more about the 90V as it gets into more people's hands. As the owner of the superb 3.2/90, the faster autofocus speed of the 90V, while welcome, doesn't provide any real advantage to me as I mostly shoot static landscapes and cityscapes. Nor do the marginal reductions in size and weight compared to the 3.2/90, so I'll pass for now and save my pennies for later. If I'm ever blessed with grandkids, I might reconsider.
Hasselblad is imposing a tyranny of choices of sorts in various focal length ranges: 28-30mm, 38-45mm, 45-55-65mm, 80-90mm. It seems that each lens has its own set of positive attributes and compromises from which one can hopefully decide wisely if armed with the necessary information (starting with MTF charts, for example). This is a good thing, right?
John
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FloatingLens
Well-known member
My summary:
XCD21 - exceptional sharpness
XCD28P - exceptional lack of chromatic aberrations
How does the 90V fit in?
XCD21 - exceptional sharpness
XCD28P - exceptional lack of chromatic aberrations
How does the 90V fit in?
tenmangu81
Well-known member
FloatingLens
Well-known member
Got a notification from the Hasselblad site recently that the 90V is no longer sold out!
Would be very interesting to see how the 90/3.2 and 90/2.5v compare optically.
the size weight advantage of 38 and 55 is bigger tha that for 90mm..
by the way I am one of those who also could not see such very bad corners of the new lenses. I prefer the size/speed of the new lenses. Plan to sell 30 and 65. for me the 28 is a more interesting focal length than 30, and alllmost as wide as I need.
I dont know yet if its worth to upgrade from 90/3.2 to 90v..
any experiences in this regards between the 90s (and also compared tomthe 80)?
the size weight advantage of 38 and 55 is bigger tha that for 90mm..
by the way I am one of those who also could not see such very bad corners of the new lenses. I prefer the size/speed of the new lenses. Plan to sell 30 and 65. for me the 28 is a more interesting focal length than 30, and alllmost as wide as I need.
I dont know yet if its worth to upgrade from 90/3.2 to 90v..
any experiences in this regards between the 90s (and also compared tomthe 80)?
FloatingLens
Well-known member
I‘d be interested, too.
nazdravanul
Member
I’m also very interested about old 90 vs new 90.
Regarding V lenses: there is a big difference regarding edge to edge sharpness between the 38, 55 and 90, with the 55 being inferior in the corners, both to the new and old lenses. While the ergonomics of the new lenses are excellent, I ended up selling my optically rewarding 38, for a 30mm + 45mm classic combo. The 38 was not suitable for night / stars shooting, while the 30mm is. And while I liked the FOV of the 38mm, I found myself in several occasions struggling for a wider lens. I almost got the 55, but the MTF data didn’t look right, later confirmed by real life reports - I’m so glad I went for the 65 instead!
I am now 100% with “old” XCD lenses, and they are also better suited for my workflow - I found myself accidentaly bumping on multiple occasions the MF ring on the V lens, which blocked any focusing action from the back, and also I’ve never used the configurable ring. It tourns out the consistently stupid simple old style XCD lenses, get the toy / tool out of the way faster, allowing me to focus on the images!
Yes, the new lenses are a bit smaller and sexier, but the I consider the “old” ones better tools for the job! The V lenses look indeed like excellent rich tourist, sorry I meant documentary lenses, but for that … I only need my iphone
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nazdravanul
Member
well looking first at the pictures from the 90 f3.2 here
onfotolife.com
and then looking at the 90 f2.5 pictures - I might think as a very hasty and subjective feeling, that the 2.5V pictures have a more powerfull presence.
KR Thorkil
Sample photos from Hasselblad lenses
onfotolife.com
KR Thorkil
Coma?