Of interest when using non corrected Leica glass...
Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review
Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review
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An old Hawaiian belief "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it". Keeps peace and happiness going, no one is insulted and life goes on. Systolic blood pressure is kept within normal limits.My name is Rayyan. It is clearly indicated on all my posts.
But back to the subject, does my not buying the ' T ' disqualify me from commenting in this thread.
Can't one comment based on official published specs.?
Are you saying it shouldn't be dashed against a rock?oke:Actually after holding the lump of aluminum and then the milled shell and the camera....it is amazing how little of the camera weight is in the aluminum.
Not quite. A troll inserts random distractions into a discussion, then sits back to enjoy the fun without contributing much. So...What's a "troll;" someone who posts something critical in a Leica thread?
Right. I owe him and the rest of us my apology for using "trolling" to describe the off-road excursions that have plagued this thread for the past day or so.Rayyan is a good photographer, and a regular participant in GetDPI. He isn't a troll.
Hi There ScottOn a technical issue... Leica marketing information has been claiming that since the lenses, both the zoom and 23 mm prime, are completely Leica designs, distortions are corrected optically. The intended contrast is with other "mirrorless" lenses, some highly regarded, that use software. But at least two reviewers (DP Review and Reid Reviews) and one techie (Sandy McGuffog) noticed that the DNG files contain instructions to correct for barrel distortion, and took the trouble to look at the files using tools that eliminate the correction. The result is a little scary, maybe 5% barrel distortion at the wide end of the zoom, a bit less in the prime lens.
A) From the bit that I know about image processing, this should be correctable, with no loss of information except that the true (corrected) image will always be cropped by a few percent. That's the conclusion that DPReview takes. Reid feels that some loss of quality at the edges is to be expected. Another friend whom I consulted, with considerable experience, says he has never seen this kind of correction done without costs that he won't accept.
B) This is not the first example of Leica's message to the customers getting important engineering details wrong. The executives who until the last moment told Jono and other that the T, like the X-series, had an AA filter, is another. And the M8 story is too long to include here. Sigh.
scott
When I tested mine in the Leica Store Vienna they told me that the current FW does still not work for WiFi. So this seems to be something which needs to be fixed in the final FW.Has anyone who's tried the camera used the wifi and app to control the camera or offload pictures? I tried to connect camera and my iPad in the Leica store and they didn't see each other. In addition, the folks at the store weren't able to get it to work yet with anyone. Not sure if it is enabled in the firmware they are running, we are doing something wrong or that the functionality doesn't work that great.
From DPreview:Hi There Scott
Have you actually SEEN the claim - or was it something that someone construed from an interview? It's just that I've always known there were lens corrections, and I don't think there was any question of that being a secret.
It's so stupid to pretend there were none when it's obvious that there are that I wonder whether it was a combination of careless talk and misinterpretation in an interview. Certainly I can't believe that it was a company policy to pretend there weren't.
all the best
Jono
It seemed Leica had given some people the idea. Apparently, you were told more than the marketing folks or the marketing folks might have thought no one would find out because in most situations you cannot turn it off. Either way, the expectations were there. In a pre-launch meeting, those specs would be known.During pre-launch briefings for the T, Leica was very keen to stress the optical quality of the new lenses. Most interestingly, we were told they relied on optical corrections, rather than software to project the best possible image onto the sensor. So with this in mind, when processing some images from the Leica T, we were surprised by a notification that Adobe Camera Raw gave us.
What is wrong? There have been some questions asked about this topic and some of us would like to discuss this. You do not have to participate nor even read those posts.Every digital camera sold today uses software correction. Next topic?
I'll check to see if any early reviewers other than DPReview say this or only early bloggers. I haven't spotted this in any material that Leica has put out.Hi There Scott
Have you actually SEEN the claim - or was it something that someone construed from an interview? It's just that I've always known there were lens corrections, and I don't think there was any question of that being a secret.
Nothing's wrong. I enjoy reading these. I just find it mildly amusing that so many people are concerned that a digital camera might use software.What is wrong? There have been some questions asked about this topic and some of us would like to discuss this. You do not have to participate nor even read those posts.
Yes, but you come off as rather patronizing, whether you intend to or not.Nothing's wrong. I enjoy reading these. I just find it mildly amusing that so many people are concerned that a digital camera might use software.
News flash: Digital cameras DON'T use film! More on this breaking story at 11.
Exactly! DPR says they were told ...I'll check to see if any early reviewers other than DPReview say this or only early bloggers. I haven't spotted this in any material that Leica has put out.
scott
Wow. in a pre-launch meeting, you first assumption is the people giving the information are simply wrong! And so your are naive for reporting what you are told?Exactly! DPR says they were told ...
Even if this were true, it makes you wonder how much those DPR 'journalists' know about contemporary optical design. Just about every lens maker provides, together with software developers, digital corrections nowadays. Heck, Phase and Hasselblad do it with their lenses that cost much, much more. Ditto for Leica S. Simply believing a company representative that says otherwise makes these 'journalist' appear quite naive.
It seems to me almost as if DPR willingly tried to harm Leica's reputation. They could have just contacted Leica and given the right information, leave it at that, instead of calling the company representatives liars.