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The Leica S2 value proposition is heavy-35mm handling, plus a stable of really excellent lenses that cover its 30 x 45 mm sensor, so I would expect that size to be maintained in any future many megapixel product. Phase sensor sizes vary, with a maximum size of 45 x 60 mm, so legacy Hasselblad and other 6x6 and 6x7-9 lenses are a good fit, plus tech-cam lenses from Schneider and Rodenstock.how would the sensor size compare to the Phase 250?
I don't think anyone would buy a new S just for the 4k but no one knows if and how this would be implemented.why would you want to buy a leica for 4k video?
That remains to be seen, until such an S will be available for actual testing. Maybe they'll come up with a new CMOSIS sensor that can do outstanding video, who knows? Of course the ergonomics of an S will never be anything like a dedicated professional motion camera such as an Alexa.You can buy an epic or black magic or many pro 4k cameras for less and have much better result.
My money is on Cmosis..so then is sony making several 36-50mp CMOS sensors, all different sizes:
Sony A7R, Leica S, Phase 250/hasselblad.
sort of splitting hairs with Leica in the middle
I'm looking for 5 point sensor stabilization, high ISO 400,000, predictive direction auto focus, live view, flash sync at 1/1600 sec, built in radio popper, tilt shift, focus stacking, remote control thru I phone, quad core super high speed processors, titanium and carbon fiber body, focus masking, auto focus confirmation, swivel 2.5m - 3.0m dot screen, built in flash with remote triggering capabilities, a few 0.95 lenses, smaller foot print, ability to use the fastest storage cards, mirror lock up button, on camera far near DOF calculation, magnetic cable release, improved grip, quick built in tripod release, touch screen, 12 FPS and low light focus assist. This seems to all be possible most if not all is years old technology Leica "Be all you can be"
Ditto, almost word for word.I am pretty sure you are joking bab, but assuming you are not, we have slightly different priorities!
Personally I am very skeptical of the CMOS sensors. I am yet to see one I like, and that includes the M240. I am still with an M9 and S2 and run a print studio where I see files from a ton of other cameras, and nothing I have seen has been better than those two to my eyes. I don't get many of the latest MFD files though...tons of Canon, Nikon, Fuji and Sony however.
If the new S does have CMOS, but can't replicate the color and file quality of the S2 at base ISO, I will have no interest in it. I rarely use the camera off of base ISO, so while better high ISO performance would be nice in theory, it is pretty much irrelevant for my work...and I say that as someone who works with a ton of night images! The color and overall feel of the files (sharpness, grain structure etc) are 90% of the consideration.
If they can preserve that, then I would personally like some more resolution (I often print at 1mx1.5m and at that size the prints are 120dpi, but the lenses have more than enough sharpness to bring that way up if the sensor can match it).
After resolution, I would prefer better low ISO long-exposure performance...less noise at 60-125 seconds exposure and a longer maximum exposure.
After that, an in-camera option to limit the focusing range of the AF in the 120 Macro would be nice to keep it from cycling from 1:2 to infinity when it hunts.
Live view could be useful for me when I do artwork reproduction, but otherwise I don't really care. It comes in handy at times, but not at all critical for me.
Video seems kind of ridiculous to me on this camera, unless they do a dedicated video version for cinematographers, but suffice to say it does not matter to me. If it is added, I would assume they think that fashion-shooters and advertising photographers might use it. Personally, my thought would be that if you have 20,000 dollars for an S camera, you probably have the money for a proper video camera (and videographer!) if that is needed. Leica does not seem to have done well so far in their video implementations.
Faster AF, better interface? I think they mostly improved on that in the S (versus the S2 that I have), but if they can make it better, great.
If it is just a 40-50mp CMOS with M240 color and file quality only higher res, I doubt I would buy it.
Marc,even if the new sensor is 50mp it still wouldn't be that noticeable a difference compared to 37.5mp,it's a 15% increase,useable high ISO might be useful though..Ditto, almost word for word.
If the new S sensor is the same size as the S2/S, and the resolution is 40ish meg, I doubt anyone would be able to see the resolution difference from the current 37.7 meg.
CMOS with Live view is more important in the small cameras with tunnel viewfinders, but the S camera's viewfinder is so big and bright it's less of a need. It would be nice to be able to magnify the LV for tripod table-top or macro work to nail focus … but I am usually using lighting and stopping down to f/8+ anyway, so it is a non-issue. I sure wouldn't pay $25 to 30K for a new body just for that.
I have no problem with the AF or the interface with my S2P as it is. For me, the only compelling thing about the current S is the $5000k Promo and a new warranty … and that it seems it will be the last CCD sensor S camera … which makes it even more compelling.
The S2P is my favorite DSLR ever. I've had it long enough now to have gotten very fast and intuitive with it … shooting things many say can't be done with it.
Besides, my wife hid my hockey helmet, and now has an even bigger baseball bat with a lead core :ROTFL:
- Marc
Sounds like a lot of stuff to go wrong and send the camera for multiple spa vacations in Germany … all expenses paid by you once the warranty expires.I'm looking for 5 point sensor stabilization, high ISO 400,000, predictive direction auto focus, live view, flash sync at 1/1600 sec, built in radio popper, tilt shift, focus stacking, remote control thru I phone, quad core super high speed processors, titanium and carbon fiber body, focus masking, auto focus confirmation, swivel 2.5m - 3.0m dot screen, built in flash with remote triggering capabilities, a few 0.95 lenses, smaller foot print, ability to use the fastest storage cards, mirror lock up button, on camera far near DOF calculation, magnetic cable release, improved grip, quick built in tripod release, touch screen, 12 FPS and low light focus assist. This seems to all be possible most if not all is years old technology Leica "Be all you can be"