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To those “ non lazy “ photographers: you can always turn off the IBIS, e shutter, silent shutter and all that.
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Good to know as that was going to be my question of the day. I have no need for IBIS.To those “ non lazy “ photographers: you can always turn off the IBIS, e shutter, silent shutter and all that.
Good to know as that was going to be my question of the day. I have no need for IBIS.
...well, as long they provide us with up til 5 stops gain it dosn't matter with 3 or 5 axis (even thought I'm doubting about "axis")That is not different from what DPReview wrote:
"The camera's in-body Vibration Reduction system can reduce shake by up to 5 stops and, when used with the optional F-mount adapter, provides 5-axis stabilization for VR-equipped lenses and 3-axis for those without VR."
Tim Carter does not mention how many axis are stabilized, only how many stops. DPReview writes "up to 5 stops". The argument is only about the number of axis stabilized.
We may not have had film failure, but I certainly had lab failure2. It only really makes sense for certain professionals to have a camera with two slots - weddings for example where a failure just has to happen once to cause upset for the customer - a definite no-no. We never had anything like 'film failure' way back when so it's definitely a new thing to consider. Dual card slots doesn't affect me but it will others whose income (and credibility) may be more assured by having it.
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For the moment I shoot solely with 20MP m43 and I have plenty of resolution for my purposes. Thus I would pretty much choose the Z6 over the Z7 as I do not require the higher res, the camera is cheaper and faster and also better suited for video.I do have a question: If one should choose betwen the Z7 45Mp and the Z6 with 24Mp, which one would you go for?, if:
we don't take the money question in account
if I dont need to print bigger than perhaps A2+
perhaps I don't often need to crop
Is it evident that higher Mp gives better IQ? I remember pictures from Godfrey and Bensogna with old Olympus 6Mp cameras (as far as I remember) with outstanding quality from these fat pixels.
But perhaps screens are very forgiving?
I remember the D800E as difficult to handle, sort of given shorter DOF, demanding higher shutterspeed, demanding more heavy stopping down to get the whole imagesurface in sufficient quality.
Therefore more tripod (which I do not intend) on a Z7 ? Gone is the free careless-fredom, hipshots and so?
Are the better microcontrasts that is seems to be in MF, mainly because of sensor size or resolution, or off course combined?
Ross Harvey seemed to be able to do careless pictures with splendid succes with the Z7 (perhaps saved by an effective IBIS) (Nikon Z7 Review | Destination Wedding Photographer), would his pictures be that clear with a Z6?
We have clever sharpening with C1 etc., that might be sufficient to get a Z6 to compete with the Z7 ? at the max. A2+ size
best thorkil
I do have a question: If one should choose betwen the Z7 45Mp and the Z6 with 24Mp, which one would you go for?, if:
we don't take the money question in account
if I dont need to print bigger than perhaps A2+
perhaps I don't often need to crop
Is it evident that higher Mp gives better IQ? I remember pictures from Godfrey and Bensogna with old Olympus 6Mp cameras (as far as I remember) with outstanding quality from these fat pixels.
But perhaps screens are very forgiving?
I remember the D800E as difficult to handle, sort of given shorter DOF, demanding higher shutterspeed, demanding more heavy stopping down to get the whole imagesurface in sufficient quality.
Therefore more tripod (which I do not intend) on a Z7 ? Gone is the free careless-fredom, hipshots and so?
Are the better microcontrasts that is seems to be in MF, mainly because of sensor size or resolution, or off course combined?
Ross Harvey seemed to be able to do careless pictures with splendid succes with the Z7 (perhaps saved by an effective IBIS) (Nikon Z7 Review | Destination Wedding Photographer), would his pictures be that clear with a Z6?
We have clever sharpening with C1 etc., that might be sufficient to get a Z6 to compete with the Z7 ? at the max. A2+ size
best thorkil
From latest DPReview Z7/a7rIII comparison:How is setting up the second card complicated?
You generally set it up and leave the setting as is until you decide to change the characteristics... There’s not much complicated in telling the camera you want the second card to backup data, RAW to one and JPEG to the other, Stills to one and video to the other, or write until full across both cards.
There are three or four options in general on any camera that has 2 card slots in my experience. Seems like you’re making it sound more complicated than it generally is to make an argument that it was a good decision to leave the second card slot off.
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When I am OK with 24Mp results, I use my Fuji system (except for wildlife photography, where I prefer DSLRs).I do have a question: If one should choose betwen the Z7 45Mp and the Z6 with 24Mp, which one would you go for?, if:
we don't take the money question in account
if I dont need to print bigger than perhaps A2+
perhaps I don't often need to crop
Is it evident that higher Mp gives better IQ? I remember pictures from Godfrey and Bensogna with old Olympus 6Mp cameras (as far as I remember) with outstanding quality from these fat pixels.
But perhaps screens are very forgiving?
I remember the D800E as difficult to handle, sort of given shorter DOF, demanding higher shutterspeed, demanding more heavy stopping down to get the whole imagesurface in sufficient quality.
Therefore more tripod (which I do not intend) on a Z7 ? Gone is the free careless-fredom, hipshots and so?
Are the better microcontrasts that is seems to be in MF, mainly because of sensor size or resolution, or off course combined?
Ross Harvey seemed to be able to do careless pictures with splendid succes with the Z7 (perhaps saved by an effective IBIS) (Nikon Z7 Review | Destination Wedding Photographer), would his pictures be that clear with a Z6?
We have clever sharpening with C1 etc., that might be sufficient to get a Z6 to compete with the Z7 ? at the max. A2+ size
best thorkil
Don't worry too much. Vivek's IBIS suggestion is good, but many are using X1D (50mp, no IBIS, no VR lenses) handheld without any issues.Thanks Vivek and SrM, but how carefull do you feel you need to be with 45Mp or which carelessness is necessary to avoid?
Ok...yes those colortones downunder from Ross Harvey's premodel Z7 of this couple here are just super-splendid (35/1.8 S):Thorkil, Keep the IBIS on and shoot without care.
The tonality from the higher pixel count would be nicer.
I thought it was a good comparison putting Nikon in a really good light. They need to up the game on AF which will be quite easy for them, but otherwise they are bang on. Now I'm interested in the EVF since they applauded it so much.From latest DPReview Z7/a7rIII comparison:
"Though it's worth mentioning that Sony's confusing interface for setting up the dual card slots might make you wish it only had one card slot to begin with."
Too late ... Nikon Z7 pre-order deliveries will be delayed for some buyersmorning gentlemen, from Denmark, just a sideremark...its really nice to open the computer along with the first cup of morning-coffe and realize there has been full action all night here , and now up for some work, while its still there...(further reading must wait)
(to Bart, hurry to preorder, else you have to wait several years....shall it be a 6 or 7?)
Boring work is calling for now....
- If your lenses can handle the high resolutionI do have a question: If one should choose betwen the Z7 45Mp and the Z6 with 24Mp, which one would you go for?, if:
we don't take the money question in account
if I dont need to print bigger than perhaps A2+
perhaps I don't often need to crop
Is it evident that higher Mp gives better IQ? I remember pictures from Godfrey and Bensogna with old Olympus 6Mp cameras (as far as I remember) with outstanding quality from these fat pixels.
But perhaps screens are very forgiving?
I remember the D800E as difficult to handle, sort of given shorter DOF, demanding higher shutterspeed, demanding more heavy stopping down to get the whole imagesurface in sufficient quality.
Therefore more tripod (which I do not intend) on a Z7 ? Gone is the free careless-fredom, hipshots and so?
Are the better microcontrasts that is seems to be in MF, mainly because of sensor size or resolution, or off course combined?
Ross Harvey seemed to be able to do careless pictures with splendid succes with the Z7 (perhaps saved by an effective IBIS) (Nikon Z7 Review | Destination Wedding Photographer), would his pictures be that clear with a Z6?
We have clever sharpening with C1 etc., that might be sufficient to get a Z6 to compete with the Z7 ? at the max. A2+ size
best thorkil
..only a couple of month I think, perhaps you can be number 40.001 .