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    D610

    Just got word they are in stock at B&H here: Nikon D610 DSLR Camera (Body Only) 1540 B&H Photo Video
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    And the rest was silence ... ?

    5 months without a single comment, maybe about time the D610 (and D600) gets a bit of attention

    Half a year ago a burglar stole My D800E so now I have finally bought Nikon's more modest entrance ticket to the FX format, the D610, to keep me afloat until the next new unequalled FX wonder shows up.

    Let's take a look at some initial test files.



    If you want to process the RAW file to your own taste you can download it here (28 Mb), but please keep any posted result here on the GetDPI Forum.

    61A_0020_AFS_50mm.NEF Simple File Sharing and Storage.
    ©lick for native size (6 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.4/50mm G • 1/400 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    Please keep any posted result of the processed RAW file here on GetDPI

    61A_0026_AFS_50mm.NEF
    Simple File Sharing and Storage.
    ©lick for native size (5.8 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.4/50mm G • 1/500 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    61A_0032_AFS_50mm.NEF Simple File Sharing and Storage.
    ©lick for native size (5.2 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.4/50mm G • 1/1000 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    61A_0045_Zeiss_21mm.NEF Simple File Sharing and Storage.
    ©lick for native size (4.2 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/160 sec. at f/11 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    Re: D610

    @Steen,

    looks really impressive! I could live with that

    Peter

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    Yes, I think I already like it, Peter.
    A lot, actually

    But there are also some drawbacks like no AF-ON button, and - even more scandalous - no option to program the center OK button to zoom-in to a preset magnification on playback - I mean, it's just a program line in the firmware.
    In other words nothing but the same old stupid camera-crippling strategy


    61A_0071_Zeiss_21mm.NEF Simple File Sharing and Storage.
    ©lick for native size (10.7 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/200 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    This first one is backlit and has very deep shadows, but they loosen up nicely with some D-lighting in Capture NX2 (or some fill-light or whatever it is called in other RAW-converters).
    The pixels seem to take the beating nicely.

    24 million pixels on an FX sensor means a pixel pitch of ~ 6 µm.
    Basically I'm a fan of big fat pixels and with the present technology I think 24 million pixels on an FX sensor is a quite well balanced compromise between pixel quality and pixel quantity.



    61A_0084_Zeiss_21mm.NEF: Simple File Sharing and Storage.

    ©lick for native size (7.9 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/320 sec. at f/11 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6



    Some haze in the air over the chalk cliffs - still works all right

    61A_0089_AFS_50mm.NEF: Simple File Sharing and Storage.

    ©lick for native size (8.1 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.4/50mm G • 1/640 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    61A_0116_Zeiss_21mm.NEF: Simple File Sharing and Storage.

    ©lick for native size (12.3 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/100 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    A huge thank you to glenerrolrd and ceh for the conversations and your kind and useful advices with regards to the D610's characteristics, before I finally made up my mind.
    It was a great help


    One for the detail rendering

    61A_0097_Zeiss_21mm.NEF: Simple File Sharing and Storage.

    ©lick for native size (7 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/800 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6



    Here's a more tasteful composition - with swan and all .-)

    61A_0128_Zeiss_21mm.NEF: Simple File Sharing and Storage.

    ©lick for native size (10.7 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/800 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    D610 -- High Noon


    And now the crucial "High Noon" 6 µm pixel pitch challenge

    First the Scenery at base ISO 100, followed by ISO 1600, 3200 and 6400, all of them just converted from RAW in Capture NX2, no tweaks



    ISO 100


    61A_0259_AFS_28mm_iso100.NEF: Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (10.1 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1/8 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6



    ISO 1600

    61A_0260_AFS_28mm_iso1600.NEF: Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (14.6 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1/100 sec. at f/8 ISO 1600 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    ISO 3200

    61A_0261_AFS_28mm_iso3200.NEF: Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (16.2 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1/200 sec. at f/8 ISO 3200 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    ISO 6400

    61A_0262_AFS_28mm_iso6400.NEF: Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (18.1 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1/400 sec. at f/8 ISO 6400 • Capture NX 2.4.6

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    You can of course download some of the above RAW files and experiment with applying Noise Reduction in your own favorite RAW converter.
    Here is an example with just 1 % Noise Reduction applied in NX2, just to remove (or blur) the top of the Noise in the ISO 6400 file.



    ISO 6400 - here with 1 % Noise Reduction applied in NX2


    The same RAW file 61A_0262_AFS_28mm_iso6400.NEF: Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (10.8 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1/400 sec. at f/8 ISO 6400 • Capture NX 2.4.6

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    D610


    I think this Nikon entrance ticket to the FX format is a great tool with a punchy contrast curve and vibrant colors straight out of the box


    61A_0155_Zeiss_21mm.NEF:
    Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (10.4 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/125 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    61A_0179_Zeiss_21mm.NEF:
    Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (7.8 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/400 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    61A_0142_Zeiss_21mm.NEF:
    Free File Sharing and Storage made Simple.

    ©lick for native size (6.4 Mb)

    © • Nikon D610 • Carl Zeiss Distagon 2.8/21mm ZF • 1/160 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    Hi Steen. My "vision" of your pictures.










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    Thanks, Luis, looks good, you have a powerful and colourful vision

    I guess I'm a purist - and maybe too much of a purist - when it comes to postprocessing, it's just that I have this passion for (or is it obsession with ?) subtle colour tones and deep shadows

    Of course some of the differences may also have to do with our choices of RAW converters, which RAW converter did you use here ?

    Once again thank you for your contribution.

    /Steen
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    Enough sunshine for now, here are some interiors

    ©lick for native sizes


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1/30 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 0.77 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 2 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    ©lick for native sizes


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1.6 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1.6 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6




    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • 1.6 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.6
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    D610 + AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G


    Plaster casts of sculptures from ancient times - AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G


    at f/8
    © • click for actual pixels (4.7 Mb)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G • 1/13 sec. at f/8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.7



    at f/1.8 (wide open)


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G • 1/30 sec. at f/1.8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.7



    at f/2.8


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G • 1/50 sec. at f/2.8 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.7



    at f/5.6


    © • Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G • 0.77 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 100 • Capture NX 2.4.7
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    lighting
    and darkness
    in the painter family's house

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    © • All with Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • Capture NX-D 1.0
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    ©lick for actual pixels











    © • All with Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • Capture NX-D 1.0
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    ©lick for actual pixels











    © • All with Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • Capture NX-D 1.0
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    Re: D610

    At first glance I thought it might be Karl Isakson, but then, the labels were sharp enough to see its the Swane family at Malergaarden. I have to go there next time I'm at Tuse Näs.
    Lovely colours/saturation/light! You don't seem to need a D800E/810, even though Tim's pictures are sparkling/tempting.
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    Hi Steen, sorry to hear about your stolen equipment. Are you going for the D810?
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    No, Antonio, I'm no longer so sure I'm going for the D810 (despite how nice and addictive the high resolution is).
    The D810 is pretty much what I have been waiting for, but in the meantime I have become so happy with the D610 that I have more or less decided to just stick with that, at least for now.

    The D610 has a punchy contrast curve and vibrant colors straight out of the box, and I really like that as a nice and easy starting point in post processing (don't know how much of this is due to the physical sensor and how much is due to the firmware / camera profile working in the processor).
    And so far the autofocus has worked fine for me, I've had no problems at all, then again I haven't exactly shot sports or birds in flight with it.

    Admittedly there's a couple of drawbacks with the D610, like no option to program the center OK button to zoom-in to a preset magnification on playback - I mean, it only takes a couple of program lines in the firmware (in other words nothing but the same old stupid camera-crippling strategy, and in my opinion an immensely silly choice).
    An AF-ON button and 1/8000 sec shutter speed would also be nice, but I can survive without it.

    I would also prefer that it had no blurring filter, but it's not a deal breaker for me despite myself being an incurable pixel peeper.
    In a way sharpness is the single most overrated quality in photography (except maybe for macro photography).
    And for me the AA-filtering is probably more of a psychological issue.
    If I know that someone has put a blurring filter in front of my sensor, I can't keep myself from constantly looking for the influences by zooming into the picture, like when the tongue revolves around a hollow tooth

    So the rumored D750 may be a new temptation for me provided it comes without a blurring filter (I don't need the enhanced speed).
    It is said to come with the same 24 Mp sensor that I have come to like so much in the D610.
    We'll see, it also depends on the price point of the coming D750 or whatever its name will be (the D610 I found at a quite sensible and affordable campaign price).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post

    At first glance I thought it might be Karl Isakson, but then, the labels were sharp enough to see its the Swane family at Malergaarden. I have to go there next time I'm at Tuse Näs.
    Lovely colours/saturation/light! You don't seem to need a D800E/810, even though Tim's pictures are sparkling/tempting.
    thorkil

    Yes, Thorkil, I can highly recommend going there, that place has a very strong atmosphere and wonderful paintings and beautiful lighting all over the place.
    And it looks like if the family has just left for a short errand.

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    Re: D610

    Thank you, Steen, for advise and pictures, then I have to go there!
    thorkil

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    I do realize that these are probably rather boring unless you are fascinated by beautiful old houses in classical architecture, like I am. Here Moesgård.

    Still, they may at least add to the illustration of the D610 image rendering in general .


    ©lick for actual pixels



















    © • All with Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • Capture NX-D 1.0
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    a couple more


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    and finally ...
    ok, I promise to stop now .-)


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    © • All with Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • Capture NX-D 1.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    and finally ...
    ok, I promise to stop now .-)


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    © • All with Nikon D610 • AF-S Nikkor 1.8/28mm G • Capture NX-D 1.0
    absolutely beautiful!!!

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    Thanks a lot, Matto, much appreciated.

    Old houses have so much atmosphere, feels like they each have their own soul and personality.

    And it's a joy when they are so beautifully restored like this one.

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    Wonderful shots Steen.

    Best.

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    thank you, my friend


    - - -


    here's something different, just for the wide-open-fun of the old AI-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.2

    (Richs was a very popular Danish coffee substitute during the Second World War)


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    © • Nikon D610 • AI-S Nikkor 1.2/50mm • 1/320 sec. at f/1.2 ISO 100 • Capture NX-D 1.0

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    Re: D610

    I do not post often although I have been a member for a while.....I just upgraded to a D610 from a D90 as I have been (and still am) mostly a film shooter. So far the only lenses I have that work on FX (without the crop to 10mp) are my film Nikors. My go to lens has been an AIs 1,2 50mm which is wonderful but I would like an AF lens to use as well. A zoom would be nice to have but I'm more interested in pic IQ. I have read the material on DXOmark but would like a hands on opinion on which lenses seem to work the best on this marvelous camera.

    Thanks!!

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    cheap optics on digital high-resolution cameras


    Hi Ray, let me show you a funny example.
    I have two samples of the old AI-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 normal prime (the late version with short nose).
    It's one of the cheapest old AI-S lenses on the market.

    I once used one of the two samples of that lens mounted on a D800E to photograph this line-up of my other 50mm primes, at f/5.6.
    The second picture is a test shot with that same old and cheap lens, this time wide open, and again on a 36 Mp D800E.
    I think this illustrates that even cheap, old F-mount primes work quite well on today's modern, digital high-resolution cameras.

    My point is that whatever lump of glass you mount on your new d610, I guess you'll most likely enjoy the results with aberrations and weaknesses and all (at least as long as they are primes, I don't know much about zoom lenses).
    So I suggest you just start by using what F-mount FX lenses you already have and then add some more along the way after your needs as well as your preferences with regards to optical quality and personality.
    Just my 0.02 rupees

    P.S. enjoy your new D610, Ray, it's an amazing camera


    ©lick for native sizes


    © • Nikon D800E • AI-S Nikkor 1.8/50mm • 1/8 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 100 • Lightroom 4.3





    © • Nikon D800E • AI-S Nikkor 1.8/50mm • 1/100 sec. at f/1.8 ISO 100 • Lightroom 4.3





    © • captured with Nikon D300 + AI-S Nikkor 2.5/105mm • 1/125 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 200 • Capture NX

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    Re: D610

    Thank you Steen for your comments. I completely agree that the legacy lenses seem to work well on the D610. So far I have used my 50mm1,2 AIs and my 105 AIs with great results. I used to use those on my old D90 and liked the results even on that camera. I plan to try all the old film glass and see how each feels. Having said that I think I will purchase the DXOmark recommended 50mm AF-D lens which is supposed to be very sharp and which can be had at B&H for $109 delivered! This way I'll have an AF lens for the days when I just want to dial over to "P" and point and shoot. And, the D version will let my use it on my old F-Photomic and my Nikkormats.....are we having fun or what!!!
    Raymond

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    Re: D610

    the 50 1.8G Nikon is cheap,sharp… and AF…

    Still, i think that Sigma ART 35 and 50 are really good lenses… but quite big… !

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    Re: D610

    Does anyone have experience using the Flexible P mode on the D610 (page 75 of the manual)? When I turn the Main Command dial on the 610 the little *P shows up on the info screen but I can not adjust the aperture as indicated by the manual. I use to use this option on my D7000 but on the 610 it doesn't seem to respond. I am using my new Nikon 50mm-D AF lens set on F22 (and locked). Is this a faulty example of the 610?

    Thanks!

    Ray
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    Could it perhaps be due to lack of light ?

    I just tried it out with my (only) AF-D lens, 35mm f/2 D.
    It does work, though at this time of the year in cloudy weather it is so dark that most of the time I cannot adjust the aperture all that far away from wide open.
    But if I point the camera directly into a light source, I can adjust the aperture freely using the main dial (on the back). You could try that ?

    Otherwise I suggest you try to start all over again, turning off the camera, re-attaching the lens firmly, locking the aperture firmly, turning the camera on and try again.

    I'm not at all knowledgeable about this Programmed Auto mode.
    I have actually never used the P-setting before, because I prefer to stay in control of the exposure combination.
    I rarely leave Aperture-Priority mode.

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    Thanks Steen,

    I spoke to a Tech guy at B&H and we figured out the issue. When you use Auto ISO which I had activated (I'm fooling around with all the menus as a l;earning method) it disables the Flexible P mode. It would have been nice if the manual had mentioned that. Anyway the feature does work when ISO is set at a fixed number.

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    I just got mine to replace my defective D600 thank the stars!

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    Congratulations on your new D610, Matto, looking forward to see how it works for you

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    A politician meets the crowd in the street at night.

    For wide open night shots, ISO 6400 is definitely useable, here going Black&White instead of using Noise Reduction.

    Capture NXD >> Picture Control = Monochrome >> Toning = Sepia >> Toning Saturation =1
    as per Jack's recommendation
    thank you, Jack, best hint in a long time

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    And another young, local politician is interviewed at the same gathering in the street.

    Again: ISO 6400 and AF-S Nikkor 1.8/85mm G wide open, no noise reduction.


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    Steen, I'm enjoying the sense that in many of your images in this thread there is an absence of people and yet they convey a distinct impression of human presence. There are open windows and doors, bicycles and cars, garden chairs and tables with potted plants on them, well tended gardens, yet very few people are to be seen in frame. It's as if I just stepped into the scene a brief moment after someone stepped out. I feel it adds another dimension to what are ostensibly architectural and scenic photographs. I like this atmosphere of something happening just out of sight. A really nice set.

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    Thanks a lot for your kind words, Steve, much appreciated

    You encourage me to post a few more
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    Nice set of images, Steen - nice match with the 28mm - and you are putting it to good use.

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    thanks a lot, Swiss
    you encourage me to post a couple more

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