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    Fun with Nikon Z

    Lets start this one...











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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    Wonderful! Is it solely by the 24-70/4S or...? (and IBIS on or? - any remarks on the IBIS?)(and your subjective remarks on handling, files, pp.etc. ?) - if you got time
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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    I didn't think you were supposed to have fun with your Nikon Z, I thought you were supposed to be wrapped in existential angst over the consequences to society and the photographic industry?

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    well.. I prefer the funny side of taking pictures. But it is true that the Z will have an impact on what i have in my bag on various occasions.
    I had a D850 with me as well, but the z was the one I used most. Certainly because of the excellent finder and the resulting wysiwyg.

    I used various lenses - sometimes the 24-70 kit one - otherwise mostly the old 17-35.

    IBIS? seems to work well, nothing special to be mentioned, just switched it of while using a tripod.
    The FTZ is flawless, the UI off the Z is really similar to the D bodies.
    I did not need to clean the sensor despite having had a windy or sometimes stormy time and indeed changing lenses sometimes.

    Now i am just waiting for the Capture One support. Until now i used Lightroom to convert to DNG and then import into C1 - but it is not ideal.

    Anyway - I do not regret having jumped in the Z!

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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    I forgot ...




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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post

    Now i am just waiting for the Capture One support. Until now i used Lightroom to convert to DNG and then import into C1 - but it is not ideal.

    Anyway - I do not regret having jumped in the Z!

    JP
    I would recommend that you look at NX-D from Nikon ... it always has had a better control of color and raw conversion.

    Rudimentary program ... but the colors are much better than LR to C1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    <snip>

    Now i am just waiting for the Capture One support. Until now i used Lightroom to convert to DNG and then import into C1 - but it is not ideal.

    <snip>

    JP
    You may want to use Adobe's DNGConverter instead, as it officially supports Z7 while LR does not. I also think that Capture NXD does a better job. Maybe you can use Capture NXD for the very best images only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    well.. I prefer the funny side of taking pictures. But it is true that the Z will have an impact on what i have in my bag on various occasions.
    I had a D850 with me as well, but the z was the one I used most. Certainly because of the excellent finder and the resulting wysiwyg.

    I used various lenses - sometimes the 24-70 kit one - otherwise mostly the old 17-35.

    IBIS? seems to work well, nothing special to be mentioned, just switched it of while using a tripod.
    The FTZ is flawless, the UI off the Z is really similar to the D bodies.
    I did not need to clean the sensor despite having had a windy or sometimes stormy time and indeed changing lenses sometimes.

    Now i am just waiting for the Capture One support. Until now i used Lightroom to convert to DNG and then import into C1 - but it is not ideal.

    Anyway - I do not regret having jumped in the Z!

    JP
    thanks...I have tried to push Phase One, and the support guy would pass it one to the right department, so hopefully its just waiting,
    perhaps you should also give the 15-30 Tamron a try?, its good (but big as a 14-24), less soft than the 17-35, but more cool-sharp, and might suit the Z7 well.
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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    A Z6 shows up at Imaging Resource: https://www.imaging-resource.com/new...ble-megapixels

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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    Very nice images

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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    Fun... Z7 with kit zoom, direct to iPad Pro, new version, edited in LR cc. No computer was harmed in the making of this small selection... some assisted by my new Profoto A1 flash, which likes the Z7 very much...









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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    very nice Tim, and IBIS/tripod/"shutterslapping" ?? ..and the Z24-70 I presume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    very nice Tim, and IBIS/tripod/"shutterslapping" ?? ..and the Z24-70 I presume?
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    Thanks Thorkil, they are rather over cooked but I have noticed that as winter strikes here, I get really hungry for colour - until the first snow, then I go all B&W...

    All handheld with 24-70 and IBIS, EFCS.
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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    ..well, while a bit boring to wait for the C1 update, I went out yesterday evening, just to try to take some first shots with the Z7 with the 35/1.8S, even though it has to be Jpegs straight out of the camera,
    IBIS on, the cameras standard jpeg-processing, nothing done except a small bit of cropping at the 2-windows, just sized through C1pro11.3...I like that lens (!)
    Almost forgot telling that this camera seems totally to fulfill my long time dreams, carrying, handling and imaging...feeling convinced that this will be a long time friendship, the friendly connections seems already being there
    PS and Electronic First Curtain Shutter ON (even though a very nice shuttersound)





    Nikon Z7 with Z35/1.8S at iso360 1/25 handheld f4 - jpeg OOC just sized through C1pro11.3win






    Nikon Z7 with Z35/1.8S at iso110 1/25 handheld f2.8 - jpeg OOC just sized through C1pro11.3win





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    Congratulations Thorkil.

    So happy for you

    Best.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    ..well, while a bit boring to wait for the C1 update, I went out yesterday evening, just to try to take some first shots with the Z7 with the 35/1.8S, even though it has to be Jpegs straight out of the camera,
    IBIS on, the cameras standard jpeg-processing, nothing done except a small bit of cropping at the 2-windows, just sized through C1pro11.3...I like that lens (!)
    Almost forgot telling that this camera seems totally to fulfill my long time dreams, carrying, handling and imaging...feeling convinced that this will be a long time friendship, the friendly connections seems already being there
    PS and Electronic First Curtain Shutter ON (even though a very nice shuttersound)

    ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Congratulations Thorkil.

    So happy for you

    Best.
    Thank you very much Rayyan !

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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    Smoke traveling down from the Paradise fire makes for some strange light:



    Some times of day it's not as noticeable:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tofa View Post
    Smoke traveling down from the Paradise fire makes for some strange light:
    These photos appear to have been taken with a Sony camera. Wrong thread?
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    ..well, this one ought to be a f4 or f5.6, but did it at f2.8, so too shallow DOF, and only the 11,6Mb jpeg as base, straight OOC (well just a bit of keystone and nothing more at C1pro11.3), IBIS, EFCS, AF single point just some small distance to the right from the nearest corner, at the plain building surface, it was nailed at once, absolutely non hesitation....did I mention, that that camera is very very easy-going, and very very simple if you just want it to be simple...a simple joy..






    Nikon Z7 with 35/1.8S at iso280 1/60 f2.8 through C1pro11.3




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    Quote Originally Posted by Darin Marcus View Post
    These photos appear to have been taken with a Sony camera. Wrong thread?
    Yep - sorry. Using a Sony, but wandered over here and forgot where I was . . .
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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    twilight - but still missing the C1 support - so still based on jpeg






    Z7 with 35/1.8S at iso 110 1/80 f4.5 through C1pro11.3




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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    ...but still missing the C1 support...


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    Yes Darin, they finally made it ...and some difference compared to the jpeg!






    Z7 with 35/1.8S at iso 110 1/80 f4.5 from NEF through THE NEW C1pro12 with Z-support - no saturation added but some other small tweaks




    ..a complete new world (is back)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Yes Darin, they finally made it ...and some difference compared to the jpeg!

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    Looks better!
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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    well inspiration seems to getting back in the brain with the new C1 12 version






    Z7 with 35/1.8S at iso 250 1/40 f2.8 from NEF through C1pro12








    Z7 with 35/1.8S at iso 1000 1/40 f4 from NEF through C1pro12




    (IBIS and EFCS on)
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    Hypercolour as an antidote to winter. Z7 with 24-70 f4, which I love.



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    ..at work






    Nikon Z7 with Tamron 15-30/2.8 VC at 15mm iso 1250 1/40(hand) f8 through C1pro12 - IBIS+VC on




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    ..in soft light






    Nikon Z7 with Tamron 15-30/2.8 VC at 18mm iso1800 1/30(hand) f4 through C1pro12 - IBIS and VC on




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    considering the noise at only iso 1800 in the picture above, even here at iso 1000 some noise at the unprocessed pictures below. A bit disappointed, had expected less noise.






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    Nikon Z7 with Tamron 15-30VC/2.8 15mm at iso1000 1/30(hand) f8 crop through C1pro12




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    Z7 and f 4 24-70 "kit zoom"
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    Intrigued by the Z's, especially to use manual lenses such as the 50mm 1.2 Ai-s. Does the Z show banding and is the dynamic range up to the level of a D810? It's important to be able to preserve highlights, but not show banding when pulling up exposure. Can the Nikon Z effectively compete with a Sony A7R2?
    Are you users happy with the Z's?

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    Greetings from Bangkok...









    The last one is with the first version of the Voigtländer 15 4.5...

    Happy holidays

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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    Again some colours from Bangkok with Z7 - with 24-70 S, 300 PF and 21.2.8 Elmarit Asph M in that order







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    Quote Originally Posted by jdphoto View Post
    Intrigued by the Z's, especially to use manual lenses such as the 50mm 1.2 Ai-s. Does the Z show banding and is the dynamic range up to the level of a D810? It's important to be able to preserve highlights, but not show banding when pulling up exposure. Can the Nikon Z effectively compete with a Sony A7R2?
    Are you users happy with the Z's?
    I'm still happy with my Z7
    It feels very mature and very Nikon-secure and -confident.
    It feels a bit heavier and bigger than lets say a Fuji X-T2/X-T3 - but that I happily trade in while walking, for the logic, calm, mature and solid feeling, it does what I need and want, and doing it without any fuss or complication, totally with you as your finger command.
    With the adapter and 50/1.2 AIS, its no super lightweight, as with a 35/1.8S, while there is some glass in that little /1.2 lens. Focus peaking is insecure I think in first attempt, used one push at magnifying button for better focusing instead, but f1.2 is not the sharpest setting, better stick to f2 further on I think . Some from this afternoon:






    Nikon Z7 with FTZ adapter with Nikkor 50/1.2 AIS at iso 4500 1/2000 f1.2 through C1pro12






    Nikon Z7 with FTZ adapter and Nikkor 50/1.2 AIS at iso 64 1/125 f1.2 through C1pro12




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    Thorkil, Thanks for the input. I really like the photo showing fine detail along the tree's edge and at 1.2 shows very little, if any CA. I agree that a few stops from f/1.2 is best with this lens. I found that f/2 is really a sweet spot for this lenses performance. It's such nice build quality, but the native 50mm Z 1.8 is tempting. I'd also be curious using the Nikon 85mm 1.4G on the Z. Thanks again!

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    Thanks JD
    I have just ordered the Z50/1.8S while it should be able to compete with Zeiss Otus 55/1.4, that is just something!, and at a low cost, and at human weight and size too:
    https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-z-50mm-f1-8s-review/
    In general, the adapter-feeling is just rock-solid, as if putting a native lens on.
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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    Some more.... lenses as before 15 VC, 21 Elmarit Asph, 35 Summicron, 50 Summicron, 24-70S, 300 PF

















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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    ..collected the Z 50/1.8 S from Photografica in Copenhagen yesterday,
    took the same walk as with the 50/1.2 AIS, but unfortunately some 15 minutes later, so the sun had just gone..
    but here are some hasty shots anyway..



    I tried to remember the same position, but...
    the Z50/1.8S is more delicate, soft and creamy in the bokeh (I like it), the AIS a bit more "hysteric", but colours seems stronger in the S




    Z7 with 50/1.8S at iso360 1/80 f1.8 through C1pro12win



    Some more bokeh. Focuspoint is on the headline down in the extreme right corner, with 493 point selected



    Z7 with 50/1.8S at iso110 1/80 f1.8 through C1pro12win



    Crop at 100% in the extreme right corner. In my mind one of the best extreme corners wide open I have ever seen. Mind you the very narrow depth of field at f1.8



    Z7 with 50/1.8S at iso110 1/80 f1.8 through C1pro12win



    He's at the wrong side of the close-up limit and moving a bit



    Z7 with 50/1.8S at iso720 1/30 f2 through C1pro12win



    ..but he's nice



    Z7 with 50/1.8S at iso2220 1/30 f2 through C1pro12win

    I have to say, this is a very nice lens..!

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    Re: Fun with Nikon Z

    I guess I need that lens... :-)

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    Yes I guess you will need it..
    nativeness, rendering, sharpness and price are topnotch
    best Thorkil

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    ...in the deep twilight a couple of hours ago






    Nikon Z7 with nikkor 70-200/4 at 200mm iso1400 1/200 f4 through C1pro12win 33% crop






    Nikon Z7 with nikkor 70-200/4 at 200mm iso1250 1/200 f4 through C1pro12win - 48% crop




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    Thorkil, I am so glad you, and the others, are enjoying your mirrorless Nikons. Some lovely images being posted.

    I like this one!!

    Happy new year to you all and your families.

    Best wishes.

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    Nikon Z7 with Tamron 15-30/2.8 VC at 18mm iso1800 1/30(hand) f4 through C1pro12 - IBIS and VC on

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    Thank you, Rayyan, and happy new year to you and your family too !!!
    its our livingroom, we bought the house in 1984 together with another couple (luckily they moved on a year after), at a really low price. Irene have done the interior, the upholstery on sofa's, chairs herself etc. - I'm just taking care of not getting in the way...
    At that time old and big houses were unpopular and cheap, we had energy-crises (since we all seems to have forgotten all about it - by then we were driving in second gear, did we learn something? Nope. Now we are up at 6. gear and at full speed, are we learning something? Nope. So we better all get together, hold our hands, before the big jump out in..?, sorry kids). The world have changed dramatically since, and not for the better (apart from camera's off course ...well camera-wise time perhaps could, for my part, have stayed happily still by my M6)
    Yes I'm happy with the Z7 (apart from the iso-ability), and I'm sure you would have loved to love it too, holding it, using it, and its almost growing upon the Df (which I wont sell anyway, only one of them). I wonder if I might sell the Fuji's later, (perhaps not) well see...
    Best wishes thorkil
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    Thorkil, I do have a question which is nagging me. All are welcome to join in this.

    Nikon Z6/24-70 versus Fuji XH-1/16-55 !

    I have the Fuji. Having been with Nikon longer than some member"s age here ( ), I sometimes wonder if it worth the switch.
    I do not have the luxury of trying out a system or purchase/return.

    Both weigh ~the same. Same fl and dof.

    The only possible way for me to try the Nikon Z6 ( Z7 is too much for me ) would be when I am in the States or Canada. Selling the Fuji combo will entail significant monetary loss.

    Is it really worth switching..for me?

    Apologies for Nikon vs Fuji discussion in this thread. But thought it would be ok here since Thorkil has experience of both systems.

    Kind regards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Thank you, Rayyan, and happy new year to you and your family too !!!
    its our livingroom, we bought the house in 1984 together with another couple (luckily they moved on a year after), at a really low price. Irene have done the interior, the upholstery on sofa's, chairs herself etc. - I'm just taking care of not getting in the way...
    At that time old and big houses were unpopular and cheap, we had energy-crises (since we all seems to have forgotten all about it - by then we were driving in second gear, did we learn something? Nope. Now we are up at 6. gear and at full speed, are we learning something? Nope. So we better all get together, hold our hands, before the big jump out in..?, sorry kids). The world have changed dramatically since, and not for the better (apart from camera's off course ...well camera-wise time perhaps could, for my part, have stayed happily still by my M6)
    Yes I'm happy with the Z7 (apart from the iso-ability), and I'm sure you would have loved to love it too, holding it, using it, and its almost growing upon the Df (which I wont sell anyway, only one of them). I wonder if I might sell the Fuji's later, (perhaps not) well see...
    Best wishes thorkil

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Thorkil, I do have a question which is nagging me. All are welcome to join in this.

    Nikon Z6/24-70 versus Fuji XH-1/16-55 !

    I have the Fuji. Having been with Nikon longer than some member"s age here ( ), I sometimes wonder if it worth the switch.
    I do not have the luxury of trying out a system or purchase/return.

    Both weigh ~the same. Same fl and dof.

    The only possible way for me to try the Nikon Z6 ( Z7 is too much for me ) would be when I am in the States or Canada. Selling the Fuji combo will entail significant monetary loss.

    Is it really worth switching..for me?

    Apologies for Nikon vs Fuji discussion in this thread. But thought it would be ok here since Thorkil has experience of both systems.

    Kind regards.
    Although Thorkil might be better weaponed to answer this question, I do have some extensive experiences with Nikon (over 30+ years) but also with Fuji (over the past 6 years). So here my thoughts on that.

    The real question to answer is - DO YOU NEED FF OR IS APSC (or even m43) ENOUGH FOR YOuR DESIRES AND NEEDS?

    IMO Nikon - and especially the Z series is and will become a great system. So if you want and need FF (I doubt one really needs it) then the Z system and of course also the Z6 is definitely a safe way to go. For me the current Z cameras are not quite there in different fields, for me mainly AF but that might for sure be different for many other users. If you are currently not heavily invested in Nikon (which I am not) I would just wait for 2-3 more years before the Z system is more well honed out.

    Fuji on the other side is IMO currently the leading vendor when it comes to high end APSC. The X-H1 as well as the X-T3 are top notch - AF, EVF, video features, speed and for me almost most important color science. The colours you can get out of these cameras today are simply stunning and you don't get this anywhere! Also the lens lineup is super and fully PRO and covers almost any photographic and videographer needs today. What one can expect in the future is still higher resolution (32MP for APSC as the new Sony A7000 will show in a few days or weeks) and Fuji will almost for sure get access to these sensors, that will offer not only higher resolution (if you need that) but also even higher speeds as these will be all stacked BSI sensors. What do you really need more?

    If you do not need and want more than that I would vote for Fuji as this vendor offers many advantages with it's X-system - mainly superior IQ, color, speed, video, AF while still being able to offer relatively small and compact high quality glass. Nikkor Z-lenses will for sure be larger, heavier and in the end also (much) more expensive than X-mount lenses. Don't let yourself fool by relatively small FF Z-mount cameras of today, because first that will change as soon as Nikon is going to offer a real PRO Z-body with dual card slots and even more the Z-mount lenses to come will be significantly larger and heavier that the X-mount glass.

    For me that would be an easy decision
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    Is it really worth switching..for me?
    Yes, if you can bear that monetary loss.

    You can use your already existing Nikon lens arsenal on the Z6 (via the supplied adapter) plus processing becomes lot easier to cope with.

    Yes, FF with IBIS has its advantages (don't know if your Fuji has IBIS though).

    Consider the Z6 as a Df on steroids but more compact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Thorkil, I do have a question which is nagging me. All are welcome to join in this.

    Nikon Z6/24-70 versus Fuji XH-1/16-55 !

    I have the Fuji. Having been with Nikon longer than some member"s age here ( ), I sometimes wonder if it worth the switch.
    I do not have the luxury of trying out a system or purchase/return.

    Both weigh ~the same. Same fl and dof.

    The only possible way for me to try the Nikon Z6 ( Z7 is too much for me ) would be when I am in the States or Canada. Selling the Fuji combo will entail significant monetary loss.

    Is it really worth switching..for me?

    Apologies for Nikon vs Fuji discussion in this thread. But thought it would be ok here since Thorkil has experience of both systems.

    Kind regards.
    Thank you for allowing us to enter your decision making process.

    It seems like every time a new camera or system is announced we all go into a tailspin ... must be better than what I am using.

    I bought a Z 7 the first week it was available in the States ... and have used it for a number of video shoots ... and have loved it.

    But I am convinced that it is not fully sorted ... AF can be problematic ... external HDMI N-Log is not color neutral ....

    End of the day ... you are pleased with the Fuji camera lenses and what you can derive from their system.

    Will Nikon be that much better for you ... I sincerely doubt it ...

    We tend to chase the new new thing ... when most times what we have is more able than our skills.

    In five years the Nikon Z will be all that their marketing says it is today ... and by then your investment in Fuji will
    represent a wholly different feel than what it is for you today.

    Stay with what you know and what works for you ...

    The Df has a mojo that the Z does not understand nor can approximate.

    Rest my friend ... little that is new will surpass you present system ... Emperor's New Clothes ...

    Best regards and Blessed New Year to you and your family.

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