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Thank you John. There are a couple of other gorges that remain open during the winter that I'll visit, but Upper Buttermilk will have to wait until spring. It really does look like the next ice age is coming when it starts filling up with ice and snow. I'll try to get some shots from the rim trail (passable) this winter looking down into the gorge.Carl, I for one will miss the gorge and your other locations that have shed so much light on this camera.