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That is one of my major complaints. I too would prefer to have an option the way my D700 gives me.My one complaint on the Sony is the lossless compression. I'm hoping they give us a option.
People believe it is actually lossy.What is the trouble with their lossless compression?
-bob
My settings for iso 100 & high frequencies shot (in C1):1) Saturation to +8
2) Clarity to Neutral +20 (This is higher than the D800 by almost twice, and one factor that leads me to believe a stronger AA. The other danger of going higher in Clarity is you net reduce DR.)
3) Sharpening 250/0.6/1.0 (This is very similar to the D800, and helps confirm an AA filter of some sort.)
4) NR at L20/C15/Single Pixel 1
It may be, and that is a real concern...People believe it is actually lossy.
My setting on sharpening is pretty much the same as the D800e 200/.6/1My settings for iso 100 & high frequencies shot (in C1):
Sat +4
Clarity neutral +8 to +12 (max) to prevent too much tonal transitions alteration
Structure +2
Sharpness +300/0,4/0,6
NR L15/C12
Lower frequencies are then sharpened in CS5 after post prod & resizing
This is possible Sergio -- I should have clarified the A7r BEHAVES as though it has an AA and requires MORE sharpening and clarity than the D800...Jack, in theory the A7r shouldn't have an AA filter. This notwhistanding, while performing comparison with the d800 shooting test targets, I noticed that the quantity of aliasing was lower in the A7r than in the d800, using the same lens. At the same time, in my experience, files from the A7r require less sharpening than those from the D800, so I suspected that Sony has found a way to counteract moire without an AA filter.(Raw converter ACR)
Sergio
Mark,Jack
I thought the A7r had no AA filter but i found myself using more clarity and sharpening than my D800 shots --- processed via CS6.
And this could possibly explain why we need more sharpening -- ??? -- need to noodle on this one a bit more...People believe it is actually lossy.
And this could possibly explain why we need more sharpening -- ??? -- need to noodle on this one a bit more...
Roger, any of these are problematic and could explain why the files need more processing than D800 non-E files to look "their best."I thought the Sony pipeline was lossy …..
I am sure they customized the micro lens
The largest concern seems to be that the in camera processing is applying changes to the raw files
Agreed Bob, need to look at a few more files --- fortunately we'll both be with Guy in Yosemite and will have access to ALL of his raws :ROTFL:Depends in what you mean by lossy. Anybody have a raw file of a simple target or step wedge I might look at?
I don't have enough technical mojo to gauge whether it is a real issue or not but I am a firm believer that I, as owner of camera, should be given freedom to decide whether something matters to me and how I want it set so I will strongly vote that Sony should give us freedom how we want our RAWs compressed (lossy, losless, or none at all), just like Nikon does.It may be, and that is a real concern...
I believe it is only possibly an issue for B&W shooting ...
To me there is only one definition of lossy: Anything where not all information is retained.Depends in what you mean by lossy.
Here you go:Depends in what you mean by lossy. Anybody have a raw file of a simple target or step wedge I might look at?
Dave,Here you go:
https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLL0dOOW41bmdUWThUQw
a7r, Zeiss 35mm f/2 w/Metabones III adapter.
1/8 sec @ f/2, ISO 50. This is as sharp as I could get the focus zoomed in 14x. Gitzo w/arca swiss D4.
Jack's comments are interesting to me; I get the same impression. At 100% I do not see the same level of sharpness I expect. Raw files from the 5DII and from my Alpa/IQ180 are both better. BTW, it doesn't get all that much better as I stop down.
Is this because:
1. The shutter shake problems? I've been looking for the classic double image effect, which isn't there. But maybe this movement is completely random, causing a general,slight fuzzyness?
2. I'm at the lens's limits w/ this sensor and pixel size?
3. It is just too hard to focus precisely on this sensor with the relatively short throw vs. large format lenses I'm used to on the Alpa.
??
I will post another at f/4, and one from my 90 TS @ f/2.8 in a few minutes. Please note I did not make any effort to even out the lighting; the map center is brighter because it is brighter, not just from vignetting.
Dave