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As much as I love photography, you made the right decision Guy.
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I love the 80MP. The more the merrier as far as I'm concernedSo it seems the IQ280 doesn't have much love.
Too fussy and too expensive to upgrade to......? Has P1 got it wrong with its upgrade pricing this time around and the IQ280 will be a very, very low seller next to the IQ260? Its looking like many 180 user are staying put which can't be good news for P1's profit forecast.
Christopher mentions the 60 Mpix is a better panoramic/stitching back but you would have thought for this purpose the higher resolution of the 180/280 would be ideally suited.
Gerald you produce some whopping panos, how do you feel on the 80 Mpix back as I believe you nodal stitch rather than flat stitch?
That would probably nail it for me too.For me, the upgrade price would have to be about 4k or less to get me to switch to the 280 from the 180. It is the worth of the wifi to me alone. I understand this may not be a reasonable number to phase, but i have to write the check and the functional difference is too small for the asking price now.I also didn't upgrade to the DF+ for 3-4 k and will wait for the next one I think.
I can't believe for one moment Phase One would release a new series of CCD backs if there was a new CMOS chip "around the corner".This makes interesting reading.
So of all the IQ180 owners who, if the price was of no concern/cheap enough would cross grade to the IQ280 or prefer to go to the IQ260 and why?
The dealers are telling us the IQ260 will be by far the most popular back for up graders/new users. Current 180 owners are sitting tight due to poor value. Are we to expect a price shift to get the up grades going in the near future or is there a new CMOS chip around the corner and the 260 revenue is enough for Phase for now?
I think the new IQ2 is a great upgrade but I'm coming from a P+ back so I can understand some current IQ users had wished for more or better deals.
Every time I send an email about IQ series prices to any Phase One dealer, I get exact price list. I never had a problem with finding out the prices. You just have to ask them, it's some kind of Phase One policy not to list all of the prices on websites. Once you get used to it, it's not annoying anymore.(In order to understand the comparison better, does anyone actually know what the list price of new and pre-owned IQ180's is now? We've been quoted them for the P65+ - now $25K new and $18K pre-owned, but for some reason Phase One, and their dealers, don't like being open about all price points.)
I don't think the original prices quoted on this site are correct and Phase has increased the upgrade cost considerably.The IQ180 to IQ280 would be a great upgrade if the price was "sensible". You only have to look at the offered trade-in value difference (circa $4.5K) between the IQ180 and P65+, to realise the manipulation that is going on here.
This, and several other reasons, are why you see a hesitancy to post pricing in-thread.I don't think the original prices quoted on this site are correct and Phase has increased the upgrade cost considerably.
Really?I don't think the original prices quoted on this site are correct and Phase has increased the upgrade cost considerably.
As your example, the difference in trading up to an IQ280 from a P65+ and IQ180 is now aprox $10.5K.
Gerald, don't get me started on that one but yes, hopelessly wrong unless you ordered in the first 24 - 48 hours and lived in the USA.Really?
So whereas this post here states that P65+>IQ280 is $17.5K, it's actually more like $23.5K?
No wonder dealers don't like quoting prices if they get them so spectacularly wrong. There has been no correction to that post, nor comment in the thread that it's so far out.
Poor show.
Just publish the full price list on the websites and be done with it. I fail to see how this deliberate obfuscation helps anyone.
I am jonesin for that back too... but then I'd spend all my free time shooting rocks and sand.(Yeah, that Acromatic would be nice though...but that's not included in this discussion )
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