iiiNelson
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Looks like they put out yet another teaser... https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/16/fourth-nikon-mirrorless-camera-teaser-released-the-lens.aspx/
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Did “they dropped support for when moving to SLR cameras”, or continue to provide support (parts, repairs, etc) for a reasonable time period after the rangefinders were discontinued? All products have a life-cycle and will be discontinued eventually. What separates the responsible manufacturers from the herd is how they support customers after discontinuing mannufacture of a product.Nikon and Canon also used to make Rangefinders that they dropped support for when moving to SLR cameras. So there’s that as well.
Can’t say from personal experience... that was well before I was born. I’m 38. Soooo maybe?Did “they dropped support for when moving to SLR cameras”, or continue to provide support (parts, repairs, etc) for a reasonable time period after the rangefinders were discontinued? All products have a life-cycle and will be discontinued eventually. What separates the responsible manufacturers from the herd is how they support customers after discontinuing mannufacture of a product.
John
I came from the era of Canon FL mounts which morphed to FD mounts which still were compatible but the change to EOS was a total change with no "Upgrade path". No support in the way of trade in support from Canon, mount adapters etc. So I switched to Nikon in 1980. Nikon had at that time, a philosophy of keeping the filter mount at 52mm as much as possible so that users did not have to buy different filters. While this handicapped the lens designers in a big way, the consumer came first. Fast forward three decades and Nikon comes out with the N1 mount, they had the FT-1 adapter for the electronic AF lenses with full compatibility for the oldest of F mount lenses. Yes, it did not AF with the screw drive AF but you could still manually focus and shoot with it. Not too many third party adapters for Nikon F to XX camera AF are out there that even aperture control. So Nikon has to be lauded for thinking about the users of their F line in the launch of the new Z mount.Canon particularly has a very poor record when it comes to the support of their customers. When they change to a new system the old(er) users are left 'up the creek without a paddle'. Canon (I don't know enough about Nikon) have always been ready to use their customer base to try out their latest marketing, without any moral dilema being visible. I speak as someone with two F1 bodies and 9 FD lenses when the EOS era began whose investment was essentially dead in one swoop as the whole FD system was kicked to the kerb......
.........Even before this there was the 'dodgy' saga of the Canon Pellix......
........and quite a lot of other stuff both before and after.
Vivek, yes, I do recall Nikons first foray into the AF realm. This camera was aimed at the pro market back in 1983, a not so popular camera with only two AF lenses and very rare today. But the camera did support the native F mount lenses with focus confirmation for lenses of f3.5 or faster. I do not know if those two lenses could be used on regular F mount bodies, I never saw one in the flesh.Anyone know the F3AF? The AF lenses made for that can not be used (they mount and dismount bout a camera can not be powered on with them mounted) on any modern Nikon cams at all. The F mount has undergone so many changes. While most F mount lenses can be mounted on F mount bodies’ not all them work.
Ten years after the D3, the mirrorless camera in a D3-like body. Now that’s the ticket.There should be an (almost) free adapter and the new sensor is supposed to be better than the D850 sensor.
https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/19/..._campaign=Feed:+NikonRumors+(NikonRumors.com)
I do remember this day exactly - was in San Jose (CA) at that time and we had an internal meeting. I told one of my colleagues that I would buy this camera and was very excited and half a year later I owned it. Was pretty impressive to shoot Joshua Tree NP with it :thumbs: as my first outing ....Ten years after the D3, the mirrorless camera in a D3-like body. Now that’s the ticket.
The more I think about it this camera would seem to affect Fuji sales more tha. Sony one’s and I believe Canon’s Mirrorless camera will be more direct competition for Sony. The main reason is that Canon shooters were much more likely to adopt Sony cameras into their kits with being able to use EF lenses (by adapter) “natively” on a Sony camera with a few new features like PDAF focus across the entire sensor/not having video features neutered in an effort to sell Cinema EOS Cameras. As such we saw many Canon shooters add a Sony and maybe a few native lenses if they weren’t inclined to completely dump their DSLR. Now obviously some did after getting tired of waiting on serious Mirrorless offerings from the “old guard” but a lot of people (myself included) shoot with multiple systems.I'm most intrigued by the new lens mount. I hope the battery gets performance similar to the D810's, but being mirrorless, likely not. Weather resistance would be key for Pro use too. Also for me, it's imperative it's made in Japan.
I don't know why that is important, but apart from the D5, the Df and the F6, all production DSLR bodies are made in Thailand, except for some shorter production runs, mostly for the Japanese market. They have invested heavily in their Ayuttaya factory over the years, so it would be strange if they didn't use it for these cameras as well.Also for me, it's imperative it's made in Japan.
Consumer zoom? The one in this most recent video looks ot me like the 180-400mm f/4E. It's a $12,000 lens. Not exactly 'consumer' fare.The teaser mentions some "pro" stating how small and light it is, easier to carry and all.
Hopefully they have a few pancake lenses too. So far all I've seen with these teasers is some Pringle's can of a consumer zoom. New cheesy plastic flavor.