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    Thank you Jack & Bob for a great job for many years. Welcome Olaf - I'm another supporter of GetDpi. No other forum compares
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    Quote Originally Posted by olafphoto View Post
    Thank you so much Jack and Bob for your warm welcome. I am very excited to be a part of this iconic community and becoming a custodian of its tradition of cooperation, exchange of ideas and friendship. With you direction and advice I am looking forward to make this transition smooth and fruitful. It is a very great pleasure to be here. Greetings to everyone.
    Welcome to you and the MF Magazine team! This is great news for the GetDPI community.

    I was not familiar with the Medium Format magazine so I just spent some time looking at the website. I decided to give the monthly subscription a try.

    Thanks again!

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    Every cloud has a silver lining !

    Great news, and a great partner - and well done to Jack and Bob for engineering this.

    I'm glad to hear the community won't change too much, but at the same time I really think the USP of GetDPI over all other forums was-is-and-hopefully-always-will be MFD. If that aspect of the site can be reinvigorated by the new partnership, the site as a whole will thrive - and that's something that will benefit everyone in the long run, no matter what format you shoot.

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    Been a few days since Ive checked this thread but welcome Olaf.

    Im ecstatic that a solution was found. I was going to suggest that perhaps we could collectively transition to a self moderated Facebook group. I know that Facebook is a polarizing company for many but Im apart of a few groups over there across various genres of my curiosity. It would be a way for most people to remain in contact and not have to think about paying for photo hosting. Every so often members ask about photos being shared in a centralized photo thread and that is what a Facebook Group would essentially do.
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    To all of our supporters,

    First off, thank you very much for the outpouring of support you've shown us in these trying times -- it has truly been appreciated. In fact, it was your outpour of support that caused Bob and I to search more diligently for a viable alternative to simply pulling the plug... We think we have found an appropriate partner to not only keep GetDPI alive in its current style, but also allowing it to keep moving forward for the next several years.

    With that, I would like to introduce Olaf Sztaba, editor of "Medium Format Magazine." We are in the beginning stages of transferring GetDPI site management to his team. Olaf's main goal in taking this over is to keep GetDPI alive, and moreover to maintain the community activity in its current form, which was of key importance to us. Additionally, Olaf has the resources to upgrade our aging vBulletin site platform to the more modern cloud version, which was a larger undertaking than we wanted to tackle. Please join me in welcoming Olaf to the GetDPI family, and stay tuned for more details as we put it all in place!
    Dear Jack and Bob,

    many thanks for driving this and making a handover like this happen! Really appreciated and very Very VERY welcome!

    Also a warm welcome to Olaf and I feel grateful that you and your team take this over!

    Looking forward to many more years of open, friendly and respectful discussions.

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    Deep thanks to Bob and Jack for going (again) the extra mile to find a new partner and future for GetDPI. Thankless work, but much appreciated!

    And welcome Olaf - this is a special place, the home for many of us interested in medium format. Thank you for stepping up - this is good for all.

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    Also my sincere thanks to Bob and Jack for keeping this forum running for such a long time. It is the only forum where I sticked around over the years. Nice people and informative as well. And not to many know it all better folks.

    I am so glad you found Olaf and I am here to support the new developments.
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    Im a bit late in coming to this thread and am delighted that a solution has been found.
    More a lurker than a poster, Im addicted to daily reading of GetDPI and join everyone in thanking Jack & Bob for making it what it is. The best forum by far. 👍
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    Quote Originally Posted by olafphoto View Post
    Thank you so much for this warm welcome. My team and I are very excited to become part of this amazing community. I will be updating our progress as we go forward.
    Thank you to Olaf (and Co.), Jack and Bob for rescuing our further mental life, so to speak...loneliness avoided...and pictures and healthy mood secured...and the calmness seems now to be able to settle down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Thank you to Olaf (and Co.), Jack and Bob for rescuing our further mental life, so to speak...loneliness avoided...and pictures and healthy mood secured...and the calmness seems now to be able to settle down
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    The intent is to keep the community the way it is.
    thanks
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    First, welcome Olaf. This great news to hear.

    Bob, Does your comment mean that the no payment forum continues?
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    Does that mean the no payment forum continues?
    You would have to ask Olaf, but what I believe is that folks can pay for use by donations.
    After all, servers cost money as does administration.
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    Thank you so much Bob and jack for keeping this going - I would really have missed my friends on here.

    As the ex-chairman of our Parish Council in the UK (you yanks wouldn't know what that was ) I empathise with
    why after all this time at the helm, you probably feel the way you do.

    Welcome Olaf ...... but I'm somebody who gave up on medium format many years ago in favour of micro four thirds,
    and here's why :

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    If this is the solution - I think it's a good one.
    Happy to donate!

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    You would have to ask Olaf, but what I believe is that folks can pay for use by donations.
    After all, servers cost money as does administration.
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    You would have to ask Olaf, but what I believe is that folks can pay for use by donations.
    After all, servers cost money as does administration.
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    Thank you for your question. I will post a major update later today.
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    Re: How Can We Help GetDPI Stay Alive

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    To all of our supporters,

    First off, thank you very much for the outpouring of support you've shown us in these trying times -- it has truly been appreciated. In fact, it was your outpour of support that caused Bob and I to search more diligently for a viable alternative to simply pulling the plug... We think we have found an appropriate partner to not only keep GetDPI alive in its current style, but also allowing it to keep moving forward for the next several years.

    With that, I would like to introduce Olaf Sztaba, editor of "Medium Format Magazine." We are in the beginning stages of transferring GetDPI site management to his team. Olaf's main goal in taking this over is to keep GetDPI alive, and moreover to maintain the community activity in its current form, which was of key importance to us. Additionally, Olaf has the resources to upgrade our aging vBulletin site platform to the more modern cloud version, which was a larger undertaking than we wanted to tackle. Please join me in welcoming Olaf to the GetDPI family, and stay tuned for more details as we put it all in place!
    I'm overjoyed!! I'd like to add my thanks to Jack, Bob and Guy for creating and maintaining this site for so many years. I first learned about medium format photography on this site and have been financially strained ever since.

    Welcome Olaf to what has been a very civil and information-rich set of forums, quite unlike many on the Web. With many/most of us in some form of stay-at-home configuration for the foreseeable future, GetDPI has been a refuge to divert our attention from the devastating reports coming from around the world during the pandemic. So this news couldn't have come at a better time (for me). The members have become my friends, even though I've only met a few in person. We share the same goal - enjoyment of photography. May the joy continue!

    Stay safe and be well,

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    This is great news.

    Olaf welcome, thank you for taking on this challenge, but as you can see, there are many that will be grateful.

    Bob and Jack (and Guy, also, for your work), I would like to publicly thank you both for the time, expense and effort you took to create and maintain the best online sharing environment in the industry for photographers.

    Looking forward to the future!


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    Hello Everyone,

    It is great to be here! I would like to thank Jack, Bob and the entire community for your warm welcome. With Jacks and Bobs guidance I will try to keep you regularly updated on the progress of the transition phase and any developments associated with it. I am a very direct person so I will try to share as much as I can without watering down issues or problems.

    First, I would like to tackle the elephant in the room. I am well aware that this community is very special and what you have built here, under the leadership of Jack and Bob, is truly amazing. I admire that and will do everything in my power to retain this special warmth. I know that some of you are worrying about the possible over-commercialization of DPI. To put it bluntly no, we are not going to turn this community into some sort of commercial locale plastered with ads and littered with product announcements. I personally wouldnt like to participate in such a community, so I would not do it to myself or anybody else. You have my word on that.

    Second, all forums will remain in place as they are. This is not going to be a forum for medium format only but there is no question that the medium format forum has a special place here. In fact, I really hope more folks will join us and help us grow as an alternative to FB-based groups.

    Third, we all know that we have to make it work by making the website more modern and manageable to attract new users. Jack and Bob have done a marvellous job and during our conversations it became apparent that many steps must be taken to ensure the longevity and success of this forum. Therefore, we need to organize as many human and financial resources as we can. I personally asked my small team at the Medium Format Magazine to help and invest our limited resources in this project, but we will need your help as well, most likely by a PayPal or similar link for voluntary donations. It is no secret that I am drawing resources from the Medium Format Magazine and those of you who subscribe to the magazine are also supporting this community. It is a fact. I am counting on you especially at this initial stage.

    Fourth, we wont turn this community into a subscription-based model. I have already made this decision. I believe that, together, you and I can make it work without putting long-term followers under pressure to pay, especially in the context of the current economic challenges many of us are facing as a result of COVID-19.

    Fifth, the transition process should be smooth, but it wont be without any issues. Our priority will be upgrading the system in terms of software. Some technical problems might happen, including some human mistakes something of course we will try to keep it to a minimum. But I ask you for your patience and understanding. I am confident that once we get over this initial challenge, things will get better. To be honest we dont have much choice, as aging software will eventually limit our options.

    Sixth, Jack and Bob agreed to assist in all these endeavours to the extent their schedule allows, especially with the moderation part. In fact, I suggested we make them our honorary, lifetime moderators. In other words, I think they have worked hard enough and if they want to lose steam on the forum they have the right to do that! I am kidding of course but we must agree that having them around as long as they wish would be great!

    Seventh, I will do my best to consult the community about major decisions. As I said, I am counting on your help, wisdom, knowledge and patience. It will take a while to transition, but I am feeling easy, having Jack, Bob and all of you as part of this undertaking.

    Please dont hesitate if you would like to contact me or you have some actionable ideas. I will try to update you on a regular basis.

    UP, UP and AWAY, my photographic friends!
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    Does this mean you would have to be a subscriber to Medium Format Magazine to access the forum? Their subscription price for the magazine is very high

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    Does this mean you would have to be a subscriber to Medium Format Magazine to access the forum? Their subscription price for the magazine is very high
    No, of course not. This community will remain free.
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    Allow me to echo the thanks so many others have offered to Jack, Guy and Bob - and to Olaf for stepping up to the plate.

    My earlier offer of financial support remains.

    I feel like I lost a loved one but they have risen again. The good news has made my day!
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    No, of course not. This community will remain free.
    Then my financial support has been transferred to a subscription to Medium Format Magazine - a thank you to you, Olaf.
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    This is such great news! As many have said thanks to Jack and Bob and of course also Guy. And also a very warm welcome to Olaf.
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    Third, we all know that we have to make it work by making the website more modern and manageable to attract new users. Jack and Bob have done a marvellous job and during our conversations it became apparent that many steps must be taken to ensure the longevity and success of this forum. Therefore, we need to organize as many human and financial resources as we can. I personally asked my small team at the Medium Format Magazine to help and invest our limited resources in this project, but we will need your help as well, most likely by a PayPal or similar link for voluntary donations. It is no secret that I am drawing resources from the Medium Format Magazine and those of you who subscribe to the magazine are also supporting this community. It is a fact. I am counting on you especially at this initial stage.
    Thanks for stepping in and the elaborate intro Olaf, I have a lot of confidence that GetDPI will stay the course. I very much like it will stay a free site with voluntary donations. I'm part of the organisation of another photography website that is also financed with that principle and the experience is that the donations and Google ads (only seen by non-members/lurkers, as soon as you're a member and logged in they don't show anymore) more than cover the running cost and we even have a small surplus to give out token prizes for competitions or small gifts for the team of volunteer moderators/administrators. All members donate according to their means and what it's worth to them and we never have to ask for it, the money just keeps flowing in.

    Only question for you is to get this Paypal link for GetDPI up, I have promised to support the site financially and I want to make good on that promise, better strike the iron when it's hot. Reading the comments in this and other threads on the subject I think a lot of people want to do the same and having a bit of a financial buffer can be a good help to kick off all the plans you have in mind for the site.
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    This is such great news! As many have said thanks to Jack and Bob and of course also Guy. And also a very warm welcome to Olaf.
    Thank you so much Peter!

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    Thanks for stepping in and the elaborate intro Olaf, I have a lot of confidence that GetDPI will stay the course. I very much like it will stay a free site with voluntary donations. I'm part of the organisation of another photography website that is also financed with that principle and the experience is that the donations and Google ads (only seen by non-members/lurkers, as soon as you're a member and logged in they don't show anymore) more than cover the running cost and we even have a small surplus to give out token prizes for competitions or small gifts for the team of volunteer moderators/administrators. All members donate according to their means and what it's worth to them and we never have to ask for it, the money just keeps flowing in.

    Only question for you is to get this Paypal link for GetDPI up, I have promised to support the site financially and I want to make good on that promise, better strike the iron when it's hot. Reading the comments in this and other threads on the subject I think a lot of people want to do the same and having a bit of a financial buffer can be a good help to kick off all the plans you have in mind for the site.
    Appreciate your thoughts and kind welcome. Yes, we are working on it.
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    Thank you so much Jack for your warm welcome. I am very excited to be a part of this iconic community and becoming a custodian of its tradition of cooperation, exchange of ideas and friendship. With your direction and advice I am looking forward to make this transition smooth and fruitful. It is a very great pleasure to be here. Greetings to everyone.
    Thank you for supporting our community and continuing the work Jack, Bob, and Guy started. This is very much appreciated.
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    Thank you so much Bob and jack for keeping this going - I would really have missed my friends on here.

    As the ex-chairman of our Parish Council in the UK (you yanks wouldn't know what that was ) I empathise with
    why after all this time at the helm, you probably feel the way you do.

    Welcome Olaf ...... but I'm somebody who gave up on medium format many years ago in favour of micro four thirds,
    and here's why :

    They photography is a medium, but that is a large!
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    Jack, Bob and Guy,
    Thank you for all your generosity and hard work you unselfishly gifted this community over the years. This forum is a success because of your direction and leadership. Your personalities will be greatly missed from the day to day activities, but your retirement from these duties is understandable. Thank you for adding to the art of photography in my life.


    Olaf,
    Congratulations on acquiring the greatest photography forum on the web. You have BIG shoes to fill, but many good people here will be helpful, including me. I normally give my donation during the December holiday season, but that can change if needed. Thank you for picking up the reins and keeping this community intact.


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    I echo everyone's thanks to Jack, Bob and Guy for their work over the years.

    This is such a great forum and I've had such good advice and community over the years I would be very sad to see it go away.

    My only concern is whether I will be sucked back into MF film photography, a medium I absolutely love but decided for practical reasons to stop only a few years ago.

    I look forward to the future with the new management

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    Jack, Bob and Guy,
    Thank you for all your generosity and hard work you unselfishly gifted this community over the years. This forum is a success because of your direction and leadership. Your personalities will be greatly missed from the day to day activities, but your retirement from these duties is understandable. Thank you for adding to the art of photography in my life.


    Olaf,
    Congratulations on acquiring the greatest photography forum on the web. You have BIG shoes to fill, but many good people here will be helpful, including me. I normally give my donation during the December holiday season, but that can change if needed. Thank you for picking up the reins and keeping this community intact.


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    Thank you so much for your warm welcome.

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    I can only echo the thanks expressed here to Jack, Guy and Bob and of course welcome Olaf and give him my sincere thanks for allowing this special forum to continue and thrive.

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    As mentioned, it's the tech support that's needed. Perhaps donations could be made to hire needed tech or hosting services. Moderators could be anyone here. Also, for a revenue stream, adapt a Buy/Sell model like FM. $15 dollars a month is cheap for advertising considering there's no seller fees.
    Lastly, perhaps a new look or name, but keeping the same format, features and ultimately users. Imo, "GetDPI" is not the most intuitive name for a photography based website. Key wording is essential for driving traffic with favorable metrics as Getdpi also relates to syntax used for utility coding in in Windows based computers. Something with the actual word "photography" would increase search results and favorable metrics, which would increase with use and bring advertisers to the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdphoto View Post
    As mentioned, it's the tech support that's needed. Perhaps donations could be made to hire needed tech or hosting services. Moderators could be anyone here. Also, for a revenue stream, adapt a Buy/Sell model like FM. $15 dollars a month is cheap for advertising considering there's no seller fees.
    Lastly, perhaps a new look or name, but keeping the same format, features and ultimately users. Imo, "GetDPI" is not the most intuitive name for a photography based website. Key wording is essential for driving traffic with favorable metrics as Getdpi also relates to syntax used for utility coding in in Windows based computers. Something with the actual word "photography" would increase search results and favorable metrics, which would increase with use and bring advertisers to the site.
    Thank you for your ideas. We always appreciate them.

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    Sincere thanks to Jack, Guy, Bob, and anyone else who has devoted so much to this forum over the years.

    Also sincere thanks to Olaf for stepping in to take over the reins. We had a scary couple of days there, but things are definitely looking up.

    Plenty have conveyed my same feelings far more eloquently than I ever could in the above comments, so I will leave it at that.

    On the subject of funding, perhaps I might be so bold as to make a suggestion.

    In the past, commercial enterprises supported this forum through banner adverts. Those swiftly disappeared with the current crisis, and that loss of revenue seems to have been the trigger for what has transpired.

    In these difficult times - difficult times for the forum, difficult times for those who have spent years running it, and difficult times for many of the forums' members - commercial enterprises continue to use this place heavily to promote their businesses - by both directly attempting to encourage regular forum members to buy from them at every opportunity that presents itself; and also with signatures that include details of, and links to, their businesses. In addition, those commercial businesses also denigrate regular forum members who deign to provide friendly advice to their fellow photographers.

    All this, whilst having - no doubt for very sound business reasons - withdrawn their sponsorship of the site.

    Perhaps now would be a good time to reconsider whether such promotion should be allowed gratis?

    Possibly there could be a category of membership for commercial businesses, with those accounts subject to a monthly fee in exchange for the considerable promotion they gain from the site, or perhaps even a fee based on the number of links they post, or clickthroughs they get, to their own sites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdphoto View Post
    As mentioned, it's the tech support that's needed. Perhaps donations could be made to hire needed tech or hosting services. Moderators could be anyone here. Also, for a revenue stream, adapt a Buy/Sell model like FM. $15 dollars a month is cheap for advertising considering there's no seller fees.
    Lastly, perhaps a new look or name, but keeping the same format, features and ultimately users. Imo, "GetDPI" is not the most intuitive name for a photography based website. Key wording is essential for driving traffic with favorable metrics as Getdpi also relates to syntax used for utility coding in in Windows based computers. Something with the actual word "photography" would increase search results and favorable metrics, which would increase with use and bring advertisers to the site.
    I actually kinda like the name. It's quite descriptive after all, when seeking for the highest image quality possible (and well, there is quite a bunch of us actually pursuing that goal in one way or another)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald.d View Post
    Sincere thanks to Jack, Guy, Bob, and anyone else who has devoted so much to this forum over the years.

    Also sincere thanks to Olaf for stepping in to take over the reins. We had a scary couple of days there, but things are definitely looking up.

    Plenty have conveyed my same feelings far more eloquently than I ever could in the above comments, so I will leave it at that.

    On the subject of funding, perhaps I might be so bold as to make a suggestion.

    In the past, commercial enterprises supported this forum through banner adverts. Those swiftly disappeared with the current crisis, and that loss of revenue seems to have been the trigger for what has transpired.

    In these difficult times - difficult times for the forum, difficult times for those who have spent years running it, and difficult times for many of the forums' members - commercial enterprises continue to use this place heavily to promote their businesses - by both directly attempting to encourage regular forum members to buy from them at every opportunity that presents itself; and also with signatures that include details of, and links to, their businesses. In addition, those commercial businesses also denigrate regular forum members who deign to provide friendly advice to their fellow photographers.

    All this, whilst having - no doubt for very sound business reasons - withdrawn their sponsorship of the site.

    Perhaps now would be a good time to reconsider whether such promotion should be allowed gratis?

    Possibly there could be a category of membership for commercial businesses, with those accounts subject to a monthly fee in exchange for the considerable promotion they gain from the site, or perhaps even a fee based on the number of links they post, or clickthroughs they get, to their own sites?
    Thank you so much Gerald for your thoughts and ideas. We are listening carefully and once we complete the transition process, I will be reaching out to the community with some proposals.

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    just to say, I'm only an architect, not a photographer, but I do think one should perhaps be very careful changing the visual and functioning setup here. Perhaps young ones will think it looks old fashioned, I don't know. But seeing all over homepages changes from well-functioning pages with clear layout which is fast to overlook, has a nice presence often, tells what it has to tell, unfortunately changes to something fancy smartness-minded, where you don't get the clear overlook at once, can't find things quick, where smart look is rather disturbing for the mind - perhaps thought as drawing needed attention, but turns out to be annoying in practice - I will just say, be careful, and rather be conservative than "innovative", if innovation has the contrary effect, of what intended.
    This site has a very clear look, clear over-look, a nice visual modest approach, modest pleasing colors which all together calm the eye and the mind..not that changes can't take place, but be careful with "revolution", design-wise..
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    Good advice. If it aint broke, dont fix it.
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    just to say, I'm only an architect, not a photographer, but I do think one should perhaps be very careful changing the visual and functioning setup here. Perhaps young ones will think it looks old fashioned, I don't know. But seeing all over homepages changes from well-functioning pages with clear layout which is fast to overlook, has a nice presence often, tells what it has to tell, unfortunately changes to something fancy smartness-minded, where you don't get the clear overlook at once, can't find things quick, where smart look is rather disturbing for the mind - perhaps thought as drawing needed attention, but turns out to be annoying in practice - I will just say, be careful, and rather be conservative than "innovative", if innovation has the contrary effect, of what intended.
    This site has a very clear look, clear over-look, a nice visual modest approach, modest pleasing colors which all together calm the eye and the mind..not that changes can't take place, but be careful with "revolution", design-wise..
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    Big thanks to Jack, Guy, and Bob for everything they've done to make this board the welcoming, positive forum it has been for so many like-minded photographers. And thanks to Olaf for his commitment to continue GetDPI's tradition and ethos.

    Once the Paypal link is live, please let everyone know. Very pleased to be able to support Olaf's agenda.
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    Thank you Jack, Bob and Guy for your wonderful creation of GetDPI and the community that it created. GetDPI is often my first stop in the morning with my coffee before officially starting the day. I've learned so much here, bought and sold gear and I treasure the friendships and spirit of craft and art. Jack, Bob and Guy you have made my life better for the last decades, or so, that I've been a member.

    Olaf thank you for taking the project on, and I just subscribed to Medium Format magazine, which I've been meaning to do for ages.

    I'd like to second the thought shared earlier about the inevitable redesign of the site as it moves to new servers, client-side javascript, frameworks and other supporting software - I am a photographer, once architect, and also a designer (have many things in MoMA and other museums so I can speak with a tiny tiny tiny bit of authority) - please lets not follow the trend of many (most?) of the twenty-something designers who seem hell-bent on creating sites of mostly white space, gray thin fonts that can't be read and navigation systems that would better fit an online first-person shooter game . The simplicity and readability of GetDPI is one of its many major strengths and may well be an underlying engine of the engaging and respectful community that Jack, Bob and Guy brought into the digital photography world.

    Again Olaf my sincere thanks for enabling GetDPI to continue. Jack, Bob and Guy you have my eternal gratitude. We are all so lucky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    just to say, I'm only an architect, not a photographer, but I do think one should perhaps be very careful changing the visual and functioning setup here. Perhaps young ones will think it looks old fashioned, I don't know. But seeing all over homepages changes from well-functioning pages with clear layout which is fast to overlook, has a nice presence often, tells what it has to tell, unfortunately changes to something fancy smartness-minded, where you don't get the clear overlook at once, can't find things quick, where smart look is rather disturbing for the mind - perhaps thought as drawing needed attention, but turns out to be annoying in practice - I will just say, be careful, and rather be conservative than "innovative", if innovation has the contrary effect, of what intended.
    This site has a very clear look, clear over-look, a nice visual modest approach, modest pleasing colors which all together calm the eye and the mind..not that changes can't take place, but be careful with "revolution", design-wise..
    I'll second what dj may wrote: Good advice. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
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    Looking forward, I too hate the selling-disguised-as-help posts. They add absolutely nothing to the community of broadly like-minded people willing to help each other. In fact, they take away IMHO. I think the forum would be a better place if we discouraged phrases like 'contact your dealer' and all its variants ('reach out to your dealer' being the one I personally hate the most) in response to a plea for help. In the event of a problem most folks here would contact their dealer if they had one (we're not stupid). They post because they don't, or because their dealer is useless. Again, the non-US audience can only look on in amazement at the service provided by companies like CI and DT. In the rest of the world, more likely than not you'll simply be dealing with a one-man-band, who simply doesn't have the resources / knowledge / inclination to deal with complex technical issues on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald.d View Post
    Sincere thanks to Jack, Guy, Bob, and anyone else who has devoted so much to this forum over the years.

    Also sincere thanks to Olaf for stepping in to take over the reins. We had a scary couple of days there, but things are definitely looking up.

    Plenty have conveyed my same feelings far more eloquently than I ever could in the above comments, so I will leave it at that.

    On the subject of funding, perhaps I might be so bold as to make a suggestion.

    In the past, commercial enterprises supported this forum through banner adverts. Those swiftly disappeared with the current crisis, and that loss of revenue seems to have been the trigger for what has transpired.

    In these difficult times - difficult times for the forum, difficult times for those who have spent years running it, and difficult times for many of the forums' members - commercial enterprises continue to use this place heavily to promote their businesses - by both directly attempting to encourage regular forum members to buy from them at every opportunity that presents itself; and also with signatures that include details of, and links to, their businesses. In addition, those commercial businesses also denigrate regular forum members who deign to provide friendly advice to their fellow photographers.

    All this, whilst having - no doubt for very sound business reasons - withdrawn their sponsorship of the site.

    Perhaps now would be a good time to reconsider whether such promotion should be allowed gratis?

    Possibly there could be a category of membership for commercial businesses, with those accounts subject to a monthly fee in exchange for the considerable promotion they gain from the site, or perhaps even a fee based on the number of links they post, or clickthroughs they get, to their own sites?
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    Looking forward, I too hate the selling-disguised-as-help posts. They add absolutely nothing to the community of broadly like-minded people willing to help each other. In fact, they take away IMHO. I think the forum would be a better place if we discouraged phrases like 'contact your dealer' and all its variants ('reach out to your dealer' being the one I personally hate the most) in response to a plea for help. In the event of a problem most folks here would contact their dealer if they had one (we're not stupid). They post because they don't, or because their dealer is useless. Again, the non-US audience can only look on in amazement at the service provided by companies like CI and DT. In the rest of the world, more likely than not you'll simply be dealing with a one-man-band, who simply doesn't have the resources / knowledge / inclination to deal with complex technical issues on the spot.

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    This is certainly something we will take into account going forward. Thank you for your input.
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    Hi,

    just now see this thread. While I do have a full-time job and won't be able to support this forum with time and admin work, I'd like to support this forum financially to keep it going. Thanks so much Jack and Bob for running and maintaining this forum all those years. I came here first time >12 years ago before getting into MF digital and do enjoy the atmosphere and spirit of people on this forum.

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    Guess who. LOL

    If you don't know who I am, Jack and I started GetDPI with Bob joining later. Anyway I've been missing for quite awhile and I apologize for that. In all truth as a working Pro photographer I just got burned out spending so much time here and it was nothing really intentional. I've gone through quite a few health issues with my wife and myself so that was a huge time suck. We are doing fine but also I think more than anything some interest in photography was lacking some as Bob ,Jack and Guy lost interest and got tired of running this place. Bob bought my share awhile ago and we all have remained friends and such but especially for Jack and Bob running this place has been more work than we wanted to deal with as Bob and Jack really did all of the technical stuff. I wish the new folks well and enjoy it as it is a great place. The one thing that made this place for me was doing the workshops. It meant the world to me but I had to stay home and be the guy around here. So that took its toll on me. But I have great memories . Meet some great folks and made friends for life. Please everyone stay safe and healthy. I'm being very careful as I can not get this virus. Keep GetDPI going. Bless all
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    I have been very, very worried for a while just seeing the headlines "Getdpi closing down"

    I understand that solutions are being discussed. Good. This is my home on the internet. Being a single father and working around the clock, I don't have resources to contribute much, neither time nor money, but I'll contribute what I can when I can... whatever helps. When I joined here, right from the beginning I think, just after Guy deleted that legendary thread on the alternative forum over at FM, I wasn't sure what to expect. Thanks to Jack, Guy, Bob and everybody else who have contributed in all kinds of ways here, this has become the best photo/camera forum on the internet, at least in the western world. Even if you can find some of the worst (best?) gearheads known to humanity on this forum, a mobile phone or an Instamatic is accepted too. It's about camera gear, any camera gear, and great photos.

    This place is the best place anywhere on the internet for photo related things, period! I hope it prevails. Thank you again, all of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f8orbust View Post
    Looking forward, I too hate the selling-disguised-as-help posts. They add absolutely nothing to the community of broadly like-minded people willing to help each other. In fact, they take away IMHO. I think the forum would be a better place if we discouraged phrases like 'contact your dealer' and all its variants ('reach out to your dealer' being the one I personally hate the most) in response to a plea for help. In the event of a problem most folks here would contact their dealer if they had one (we're not stupid). They post because they don't, or because their dealer is useless. Again, the non-US audience can only look on in amazement at the service provided by companies like CI and DT. In the rest of the world, more likely than not you'll simply be dealing with a one-man-band, who simply doesn't have the resources / knowledge / inclination to deal with complex technical issues on the spot.

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    I agree with the "contact your dealer / reach out to your dealer" phrases but apart from that the guys from the two US dealers add a lot to the forum at least IMO. To ban them would be a shame.

    I also agree with you about the service CI and DT in the US provides. The rest of the world totally falls apart in comparison!

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    To ban them would be a shame...
    I agree 100% - hence my use of the word discourage.

    There's a time and place for everything, and sometimes such a response will be warranted, but more often than not it's just frustrating to see people ask for help with a relatively simple question ('how do I access this function') only to be met with contact your dealer / reach out to your dealer / work with a dealer ... ad nauseam. It's an internet forum ... we're supposed to help each other, right ? (Rhetorical question).

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    Quote Originally Posted by f8orbust View Post
    I agree 100% - hence my use of the word discourage.

    There's a time and place for everything, and sometimes such a response will be warranted, but more often than not it's just frustrating to see people ask for help with a relatively simple question ('how do I access this function') only to be met with contact your dealer / reach out to your dealer / work with a dealer ... ad nauseam. It's an internet forum ... we're supposed to help each other, right ? (Rhetorical question).
    In one of the recent replies by a dealer, I found myself getting a little frustrated and feeling it was a robocall of sorts. I simply wanted to read all responses to the OP’s question and the dealer’s response was a waste of time unless you were in the market for buying what he was selling. I am looking forward to a new approach to stop the constant trolling for sales from members. Not all dealers do this, but one in particular trolls like a robocaller IMO.
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